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It's interesting how Facebook closes it's eyes on copyright infringements because they want to take over video consumption market. For example super highlights[

by msoad 12y ago

It's interesting how Facebook closes it's eyes on copyright infringements because they want to take over video consumption market. For example super highlights[1] Facebook page share copyrighted football games all the time. This is on top of giving video posts a higher rank and auto-playing the videos. Twitter will push a lot of videos using all sort of technics just like Facebook. To be fair, a playing video in my Facebook feed is very mesmerizing. [1] https://www.facebook.com/pages/Super-Highlights/358037564248067?ref=br_tf https://www.facebook.com/pages/Super-Highlights/358037564248...

forrestthewoods 12y ago
The process is always the same 1. Launch platform that supports user generated content 2. Close eyes, let any content go 3. Manually take down selective content (porn, racist material, etc) 4. Support official DMCA channels 5. Increase speed and volume of take downs for select material 6. Provide automatic detection and takedown of MPAA/RIAA material You only have to fulfill the requirement of each sequential bullet point after you get substantially large. If you stay small and unprofitable you don't have to worry about it. The more profitable become the more you have to worry about it. Honestly that seems pretty reasonable to me. Some cases, such as sports highlights, are annoying. But for the most part it's fine. No, you can't make millions of dollars off of someone else's content. I'm ok with that. YouTube feels like it's in a pretty good spot imo. If someone wants to compete with YouTube then they're gonna have to play by the same rules. That's not too bad.
- rdl 12y ago
  Makes sense for a startup, but if you are part of an existing large company, I don't see why rights holders wouldn't jump ahead to taking action even in stage 1 and 2.
  - nl 12y ago
    They try, but the DMCA safe harbor provisions make it hard. There is a doctrine of secondary infringement which arose out of the Grokster case[1] that may help rights holders. However, it is pretty limited in scope. [1] http://www.law.columbia.edu/law_school/communications/reports/winter06/facforum1 http://www.law.columbia.edu/law_school/communications/report...
  - sauere 12y ago
    They just need to delay everything long enough. The average Facebook video has its peak after 2-3 days anyway.
lmm 12y ago
Facebook is not the first to do this - in the early days Youtube was almost entirely copyright infringement.

by msoad 12y ago

forrestthewoods 12y ago

The process is always the same 1. Launch platform that supports user generated content 2. Close eyes, let any content go 3. Manually take down selective content (porn, racist material, etc) 4. Support official DMCA channels 5. Increase speed and volume of take downs for select material 6. Provide automatic detection and takedown of MPAA/RIAA material You only have to fulfill the requirement of each sequential bullet point after you get substantially large. If you stay small and unprofitable you don't have to worry about it. The more profitable become the more you have to worry about it. Honestly that seems pretty reasonable to me. Some cases, such as sports highlights, are annoying. But for the most part it's fine. No, you can't make millions of dollars off of someone else's content. I'm ok with that. YouTube feels like it's in a pretty good spot imo. If someone wants to compete with YouTube then they're gonna have to play by the same rules. That's not too bad.

rdl 12y ago
Makes sense for a startup, but if you are part of an existing large company, I don't see why rights holders wouldn't jump ahead to taking action even in stage 1 and 2.
- nl 12y ago
  They try, but the DMCA safe harbor provisions make it hard. There is a doctrine of secondary infringement which arose out of the Grokster case[1] that may help rights holders. However, it is pretty limited in scope. [1] http://www.law.columbia.edu/law_school/communications/reports/winter06/facforum1 http://www.law.columbia.edu/law_school/communications/report...
- sauere 12y ago
  They just need to delay everything long enough. The average Facebook video has its peak after 2-3 days anyway.

lmm 12y ago

Facebook is not the first to do this - in the early days Youtube was almost entirely copyright infringement.