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The good news: Youtube will have another main competitor, which can only be a good thing. The bad news: Twitter will start building its own "advanced censorshi

The good news: Youtube will have another main competitor, which can only be a good thing. The bad news: Twitter will start building its own "advanced censorship infrastructure" to appease MPAA (just like Google did), which will later be used for other kinds of censorship, too (shared images, tweets, etc).

walterbell 12y ago
We need sites to create DRM-free zones where: - all content is CC licensed - it's easy to donate to content/remix creators - it's easy to (a) reuse content, (b) credit creators - no MPAA content is allowed
- Animats 12y ago
  You can upload video to the Internet Archive under such terms. Here's one of mine: https://archive.org/details/Aethericmachine14 https://archive.org/details/Aethericmachine14 Anyone can play or download the original file. The Archive transcodes it into several formats for convenient viewing, download or editing. They even have BitTorrent support. About 400,000 videos have been uploaded.
  - walterbell 12y ago
    Thanks, that's great. Is there a way to create "playlists" within the Community Video collection, or are those created offsite?
lucaspiller 12y ago
Not sure why this is being down voted, but it seems pretty fair to me. DRM is the reason why YouTube still uses Flash as the main player, the same for Netflix with Silverlight. Given Twitter will mainly be doing this from a commercial angle, I can't see them being any different - if anything their technical might will lead to stronger DRM technologies.
- rtpg 12y ago
  DRM is not the reason youtube uses flash, browser support and feature usage. HTML5 video APIs are still frustrating to use compared to flash's pretty well built-out mechanisms.
  - eleusive 12y ago
    Advertisers also love to serve video ads on a flash platform because it lets them perform custom analytics, logic, etc.
    - psykovsky 12y ago
      And don't forget the part where flash is a backdoor to users computers. It can bypass proxies and give them your real IP, and I'm not sure even google will want that to go away.
- detaro 12y ago
  What kind of DRM? I haven't come across a YouTube video where it fell back to Flash in ages.
  - 7952 12y ago
    No They don't need flash to do DRM. Chrome has the widevine plugin that adds DRM to html5.
- warfangle 12y ago
  > YouTube still uses Flash as the main player That's odd; I just loaded up a YouTube video and it's the HTML5 player. Maybe I have it enabled in settings somewhere; huh, nope, in incognito mode it's still HTML5. Must be a chrome thing - in Firefox it's flash. Probably something to do with the codecs available in Firefox HTML5.

walterbell 12y ago

We need sites to create DRM-free zones where: - all content is CC licensed - it's easy to donate to content/remix creators - it's easy to (a) reuse content, (b) credit creators - no MPAA content is allowed

Animats 12y ago
You can upload video to the Internet Archive under such terms. Here's one of mine: https://archive.org/details/Aethericmachine14 https://archive.org/details/Aethericmachine14 Anyone can play or download the original file. The Archive transcodes it into several formats for convenient viewing, download or editing. They even have BitTorrent support. About 400,000 videos have been uploaded.
- walterbell 12y ago
  Thanks, that's great. Is there a way to create "playlists" within the Community Video collection, or are those created offsite?

lucaspiller 12y ago

Not sure why this is being down voted, but it seems pretty fair to me. DRM is the reason why YouTube still uses Flash as the main player, the same for Netflix with Silverlight. Given Twitter will mainly be doing this from a commercial angle, I can't see them being any different - if anything their technical might will lead to stronger DRM technologies.

rtpg 12y ago
DRM is not the reason youtube uses flash, browser support and feature usage. HTML5 video APIs are still frustrating to use compared to flash's pretty well built-out mechanisms.
- eleusive 12y ago
  Advertisers also love to serve video ads on a flash platform because it lets them perform custom analytics, logic, etc.
  - psykovsky 12y ago
    And don't forget the part where flash is a backdoor to users computers. It can bypass proxies and give them your real IP, and I'm not sure even google will want that to go away.
detaro 12y ago
What kind of DRM? I haven't come across a YouTube video where it fell back to Flash in ages.
- 7952 12y ago
  No They don't need flash to do DRM. Chrome has the widevine plugin that adds DRM to html5.
warfangle 12y ago
> YouTube still uses Flash as the main player That's odd; I just loaded up a YouTube video and it's the HTML5 player. Maybe I have it enabled in settings somewhere; huh, nope, in incognito mode it's still HTML5. Must be a chrome thing - in Firefox it's flash. Probably something to do with the codecs available in Firefox HTML5.