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Atlassian Confluence or whole Atlassian suite. Which does most of the stuff done by SharePoint much better (office integration is obviously much better on SP).

Atlassian Confluence or whole Atlassian suite. Which does most of the stuff done by SharePoint much better (office integration is obviously much better on SP). Also you can get pretty impressive Confluence/Sharepoint integration. Also if you're already using Domino platform in house - you could go the Lotus Connections + Quickr way - getting full Open Office (Symphony) integration. Both these solutions being much cheaper AND more extensible than SharePoint. Plus collaboration capabilities of Atlassian or IBM solutions being much better than SP's Don't get me wrong - I believe that SP is pretty good - just not for an IT company with tech savvy users - it would be probably better to look somewhere else.

swombat 17y ago
Which does most of the stuff done by SharePoint much better Much better according to you. Not according to the hordes of non-geeks in large corporations, who don't even know that there are alternatives. Compared to sharing a spreadsheet by email or via a shared drive with no locking, Sharepoint is pretty good!
- DuncanIdaho 17y ago
  Basically you're saying the same as me... We do have SP in our company, we also have lots of other stuff - we use JIRA for issue tracking for example. I also spent quite some time evaluating Confluence. And what I figured out was that getting to integrate whole of our infrastructure and different existing document repositories (they're all over the place technologically and physically) would be way easier and more flexible using Atlassian suite. That's because we work on so many different platforms (.Net, Domino, Java, Oracle, MSSQL,...). And since SP is very typical of MS software (great integration with anything MS - and other stuff does not exist) - for our situation an principal/technology agnostic system is much much better in the long run. But as far as non-geeks go in monolythic MS stack companies - ofcourse SP is AWESOME :)
solutionyogi 17y ago
I have no experience with Atlassian products but I would like to note that for Atlassian install version, you need to have J2EE application server which could be a deal breaker for an MS shop. Second, what about extensibility? Does Atlassian provide a way to customize the installation?
- JanezStupar 17y ago
  I don't understand why installing an Tomcat on Windows could be a deal breaker? As far as extenisbility goes... There are loads of plugins available for free. Giving you an ability to extend your Wiki with social oriented features, different UI customisations, you get remote API, you can add widgets (they are going to make the Shindig an integral part of Confluence) or embed whole pages. If you want to pay a reasonable price you can buy payable plugins: Gliffy, Sharepoint Connector, Balsamiq,... Did I mention that Atlassian products stack together super nicely (being able to view your JIRA issues on documentation pages in wiki is superb). Using the stack mentioned above will basically give you all the tools you need for all your documentation creation and collaboration needs costing you about 10.000$ for a 500 man company. From what I've seen so far it's the Atlassian that are driving the whole WEB 2.0 Enterprise collaboration game - with IBM and MS trying to follow - but Atlassian is just too fast so far IMHO. And I don't even work for Atlassian :)
  - JanezStupar 17y ago
    oooh and something else... For 10$ each you can get: JIRA (issue tracker), Confluence (wiki & collaboration platform), GreenHopper (Agile tools), Bamboo (Continuous integration), FishEye (Adding UI and functionality to: SVN, CVS, Perforce, Git) and Crowd (user management) So if you're a sub 10 man company (or need only as many licenses) you can hardly beat that for 60$ a year :). http://www.atlassian.com/starter/ http://www.atlassian.com/starter/ Disclaimer: I am NOT working for Atlassian and I am NOT affiliated to them in any way - I am not even an customer (because our pointy haired bosses don't trust anything that doesn't cost an arm and an leg and isn't sold to them by sleazy MS or IBM salespeople).

swombat 17y ago

Which does most of the stuff done by SharePoint much better Much better according to you. Not according to the hordes of non-geeks in large corporations, who don't even know that there are alternatives. Compared to sharing a spreadsheet by email or via a shared drive with no locking, Sharepoint is pretty good!

DuncanIdaho 17y ago
Basically you're saying the same as me... We do have SP in our company, we also have lots of other stuff - we use JIRA for issue tracking for example. I also spent quite some time evaluating Confluence. And what I figured out was that getting to integrate whole of our infrastructure and different existing document repositories (they're all over the place technologically and physically) would be way easier and more flexible using Atlassian suite. That's because we work on so many different platforms (.Net, Domino, Java, Oracle, MSSQL,...). And since SP is very typical of MS software (great integration with anything MS - and other stuff does not exist) - for our situation an principal/technology agnostic system is much much better in the long run. But as far as non-geeks go in monolythic MS stack companies - ofcourse SP is AWESOME :)

solutionyogi 17y ago

I have no experience with Atlassian products but I would like to note that for Atlassian install version, you need to have J2EE application server which could be a deal breaker for an MS shop. Second, what about extensibility? Does Atlassian provide a way to customize the installation?

JanezStupar 17y ago
I don't understand why installing an Tomcat on Windows could be a deal breaker? As far as extenisbility goes... There are loads of plugins available for free. Giving you an ability to extend your Wiki with social oriented features, different UI customisations, you get remote API, you can add widgets (they are going to make the Shindig an integral part of Confluence) or embed whole pages. If you want to pay a reasonable price you can buy payable plugins: Gliffy, Sharepoint Connector, Balsamiq,... Did I mention that Atlassian products stack together super nicely (being able to view your JIRA issues on documentation pages in wiki is superb). Using the stack mentioned above will basically give you all the tools you need for all your documentation creation and collaboration needs costing you about 10.000$ for a 500 man company. From what I've seen so far it's the Atlassian that are driving the whole WEB 2.0 Enterprise collaboration game - with IBM and MS trying to follow - but Atlassian is just too fast so far IMHO. And I don't even work for Atlassian :)
- JanezStupar 17y ago
  oooh and something else... For 10$ each you can get: JIRA (issue tracker), Confluence (wiki & collaboration platform), GreenHopper (Agile tools), Bamboo (Continuous integration), FishEye (Adding UI and functionality to: SVN, CVS, Perforce, Git) and Crowd (user management) So if you're a sub 10 man company (or need only as many licenses) you can hardly beat that for 60$ a year :). http://www.atlassian.com/starter/ http://www.atlassian.com/starter/ Disclaimer: I am NOT working for Atlassian and I am NOT affiliated to them in any way - I am not even an customer (because our pointy haired bosses don't trust anything that doesn't cost an arm and an leg and isn't sold to them by sleazy MS or IBM salespeople).