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Thanks. How do you know they havent managed it ? Yeah, that's part of the problem. If you did some research or had experienced these things yourself, you would

Thanks. How do you know they havent managed it ? Yeah, that's part of the problem. If you did some research or had experienced these things yourself, you would have some insight to know that it happens all the time. But we are stuck in our paradigm of having to wait for science to prove us what is true and what is not. So until we break this paradigm, we might never know. I know, this writing wont help anything, you cannot understand it until you experience anything like it, but I'm just kinda frustrated that anybody who says otherwise than our major religion of science nowadays, gets shot down. Maybe just better to be quiet and continue on forwards.

gonvaled 12y ago
Science does not "prove anything". It just offers an explanation which can be falsified (can be described objectively, and makes predictions which, if refuted, disprove the theory). Other belief systems are based on non-falsifiable theories (or explanations, or beliefs)
- inDigiNeous 12y ago
  That is sciences greatest strength, and at the same time greatest weakness. What happens when something cannot be proven with modern methods ? Then we choose not to believe in it at all. Say what you will about it only being a system of proof, people use it like it defines their world views, and thus it is similar to religions. It boxes people in thinking inside a world view that might have been created 100 years ago. But thank you for this explanation, it makes me understand more why people are so keen on defending these gained proofs and thus their world views also. Note that I am in no way saying that science does not work, but it can get in the way when dealing with things that have no way of being proven with scientific methods. I use science everyday and I am thankful for it existing, but it should not be the only source of information that is accepted mainstream.
stouset 12y ago
Our "major religion of science" is responsible for feeding seven billion people, the creation of vaccines, the availability of Internet, and furthering our actual understanding of the past and future of our universe. How about yours?
- inDigiNeous 12y ago
  Who said I don't belive in science ? I am a computer scientist, I am not attacking science. Just pointing out that there is a major flaw in the system also.

gonvaled 12y ago

Science does not "prove anything". It just offers an explanation which can be falsified (can be described objectively, and makes predictions which, if refuted, disprove the theory). Other belief systems are based on non-falsifiable theories (or explanations, or beliefs)

inDigiNeous 12y ago
That is sciences greatest strength, and at the same time greatest weakness. What happens when something cannot be proven with modern methods ? Then we choose not to believe in it at all. Say what you will about it only being a system of proof, people use it like it defines their world views, and thus it is similar to religions. It boxes people in thinking inside a world view that might have been created 100 years ago. But thank you for this explanation, it makes me understand more why people are so keen on defending these gained proofs and thus their world views also. Note that I am in no way saying that science does not work, but it can get in the way when dealing with things that have no way of being proven with scientific methods. I use science everyday and I am thankful for it existing, but it should not be the only source of information that is accepted mainstream.

stouset 12y ago

Our "major religion of science" is responsible for feeding seven billion people, the creation of vaccines, the availability of Internet, and furthering our actual understanding of the past and future of our universe. How about yours?

inDigiNeous 12y ago
Who said I don't belive in science ? I am a computer scientist, I am not attacking science. Just pointing out that there is a major flaw in the system also.