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"$1000 after tax is not appropriate for two days work" Assuming you work 250 days a year ... $125,000/year after tax is never acceptable for web dev? Even in t

"$1000 after tax is not appropriate for two days work" Assuming you work 250 days a year ... $125,000/year after tax is never acceptable for web dev? Even in the USA that's flying pretty damned high everywhere outside NY/SF. ... And you can live anywhere, it's remote work! What, pray tell, is an acceptable wage? What sort talent and experience level makes that pay "appropriate"?

thirdtruck 12y ago
125k/year seems like a lot for _full-time employment_, but a freelancer may still have to pay full costs for health insurance and the like. Even then, such a task would realistically take at least several days. So, the _actual_ annual income would be closer to 30k.
- PostOnce 12y ago
  I understand you may not be fully booked 100% of the time, and that there are certain overheads, but despite all that, this guy said $1000 after tax for two days work is totally unacceptable that gives no consideration to the programmer's skill or experience, location, overheads, average workload, etc Let's say you have 125K after tax (which is what he said), and you spend $12K a year on health insurance (that's $1000 a month on health insurance...), you're still sitting at $113,000 AFTER TAX. Even if you only work 75% of the year because the other 25% is spent finding contracts (188 "working" days per year instead of 250), thats still $93,000 AFTER TAX. For remote work. I don't know where you're pulling the number 30k from... The same magic hat where $125K post-tax is unacceptable?
jamra 12y ago
Ok, so if you can accomplish this task in two days, it may be cutting on the edge of worth it. It looks to me like it would take more than a week. That looks more like a slave wage than fair pay for remote work.
mason240 12y ago
When freelancing the general rule is assume that will be spending 1/3 of your time with no billable work, and you need to build that into your rate. That leaves you with $83,000/year, and you still have to pay for healthcare and vacation time. This rule especially applies to short, 2 day jobs like this. How likely is that you will be able to roll through a string of ~20 hour jobs with no downtime?

thirdtruck 12y ago

125k/year seems like a lot for _full-time employment_, but a freelancer may still have to pay full costs for health insurance and the like. Even then, such a task would realistically take at least several days. So, the _actual_ annual income would be closer to 30k.

PostOnce 12y ago
I understand you may not be fully booked 100% of the time, and that there are certain overheads, but despite all that, this guy said $1000 after tax for two days work is totally unacceptable that gives no consideration to the programmer's skill or experience, location, overheads, average workload, etc Let's say you have 125K after tax (which is what he said), and you spend $12K a year on health insurance (that's $1000 a month on health insurance...), you're still sitting at $113,000 AFTER TAX. Even if you only work 75% of the year because the other 25% is spent finding contracts (188 "working" days per year instead of 250), thats still $93,000 AFTER TAX. For remote work. I don't know where you're pulling the number 30k from... The same magic hat where $125K post-tax is unacceptable?

jamra 12y ago

Ok, so if you can accomplish this task in two days, it may be cutting on the edge of worth it. It looks to me like it would take more than a week. That looks more like a slave wage than fair pay for remote work.

mason240 12y ago

When freelancing the general rule is assume that will be spending 1/3 of your time with no billable work, and you need to build that into your rate. That leaves you with $83,000/year, and you still have to pay for healthcare and vacation time. This rule especially applies to short, 2 day jobs like this. How likely is that you will be able to roll through a string of ~20 hour jobs with no downtime?