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Take a look at https://gittask.com/developer https://gittask.com/developer – work remotely on coding tasks using your favorite libraries and languages while sup

Take a look at https://gittask.com/developer https://gittask.com/developer – work remotely on coding tasks using your favorite libraries and languages while supporting open source.

jamra 12y ago
I like the idea, but it looks like there are tons of tasks offering $60 for some simple feature. Someone asked for an Angular.js dashboard for $1600. After taxes, that would be less than $1000. That's not an appropriate payment for a week's work. It's not an appropriate payment for two days work. Have you been successful with this?
- nl 12y ago
  $1600 for an Angular dashboard is fine money if you live in many places outside the US.
- PostOnce 12y ago
  "$1000 after tax is not appropriate for two days work" Assuming you work 250 days a year ... $125,000/year after tax is never acceptable for web dev? Even in the USA that's flying pretty damned high everywhere outside NY/SF. ... And you can live anywhere, it's remote work! What, pray tell, is an acceptable wage? What sort talent and experience level makes that pay "appropriate"?
  - thirdtruck 12y ago
    125k/year seems like a lot for _full-time employment_, but a freelancer may still have to pay full costs for health insurance and the like. Even then, such a task would realistically take at least several days. So, the _actual_ annual income would be closer to 30k.
    - PostOnce 12y ago
      I understand you may not be fully booked 100% of the time, and that there are certain overheads, but despite all that, this guy said $1000 after tax for two days work is totally unacceptable that gives no consideration to the programmer's skill or experience, location, overheads, average workload, etc Let's say you have 125K after tax (which is what he said), and you spend $12K a year on health insurance (that's $1000 a month on health insurance...), you're still sitting at $113,000 AFTER TAX. Even if you only work 75% of the year because the other 25% is spent finding contracts (188 "working" days per year instead of 250), thats still $93,000 AFTER TAX. For remote work. I don't know where you're pulling the number 30k from... The same magic hat where $125K post-tax is unacceptable?
  - jamra 12y ago
    Ok, so if you can accomplish this task in two days, it may be cutting on the edge of worth it. It looks to me like it would take more than a week. That looks more like a slave wage than fair pay for remote work.
  - mason240 12y ago
    When freelancing the general rule is assume that will be spending 1/3 of your time with no billable work, and you need to build that into your rate. That leaves you with $83,000/year, and you still have to pay for healthcare and vacation time. This rule especially applies to short, 2 day jobs like this. How likely is that you will be able to roll through a string of ~20 hour jobs with no downtime?
- morgante 12y ago
  > It's not an appropriate payment for two days work. At 8 hours a day, that's $100/hr. Even for NYC, that's considered decent for a front-end developer. Not sure what standard you're judging this against that $100/hr is ridiculous.
- VLM 12y ago
  "It's not an appropriate payment for two days work." This is based on an assumption that there's only one (high) standard of work. For a kid trying to get one of his classmates to do his homework assignment for him, that doesn't sound too far out of line for "my first web project" level of quality. You pay chickenfeed you get chickens. Sometimes for sound business reasons or real world issues you want chickens, not a soaring eagle. The business world is ending a cycle of outsourcing where the mantra was "who cares about code quality, as long as its cheap".
aptwebapps 12y ago
Is this the same site that was involved in the brouhaha a month or two ago because projects were opted in by default and had a hard time opting out?
- frostmatthew 12y ago
  You may be thinking of tip4commit[1][2] [1] https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8542969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8542969
  - aptwebapps 12y ago
    Yes, that was it. Thanks. I hope a similar issue doesn't arise here.

Take a look at https://gittask.com/developer https://gittask.com/developer – work remotely on coding tasks using your favorite libraries and languages while supporting open source.

jamra 12y ago

I like the idea, but it looks like there are tons of tasks offering $60 for some simple feature. Someone asked for an Angular.js dashboard for $1600. After taxes, that would be less than $1000. That's not an appropriate payment for a week's work. It's not an appropriate payment for two days work. Have you been successful with this?

nl 12y ago
$1600 for an Angular dashboard is fine money if you live in many places outside the US.
PostOnce 12y ago
"$1000 after tax is not appropriate for two days work" Assuming you work 250 days a year ... $125,000/year after tax is never acceptable for web dev? Even in the USA that's flying pretty damned high everywhere outside NY/SF. ... And you can live anywhere, it's remote work! What, pray tell, is an acceptable wage? What sort talent and experience level makes that pay "appropriate"?
- thirdtruck 12y ago
  125k/year seems like a lot for _full-time employment_, but a freelancer may still have to pay full costs for health insurance and the like. Even then, such a task would realistically take at least several days. So, the _actual_ annual income would be closer to 30k.
  - PostOnce 12y ago
    I understand you may not be fully booked 100% of the time, and that there are certain overheads, but despite all that, this guy said $1000 after tax for two days work is totally unacceptable that gives no consideration to the programmer's skill or experience, location, overheads, average workload, etc Let's say you have 125K after tax (which is what he said), and you spend $12K a year on health insurance (that's $1000 a month on health insurance...), you're still sitting at $113,000 AFTER TAX. Even if you only work 75% of the year because the other 25% is spent finding contracts (188 "working" days per year instead of 250), thats still $93,000 AFTER TAX. For remote work. I don't know where you're pulling the number 30k from... The same magic hat where $125K post-tax is unacceptable?
- jamra 12y ago
  Ok, so if you can accomplish this task in two days, it may be cutting on the edge of worth it. It looks to me like it would take more than a week. That looks more like a slave wage than fair pay for remote work.
- mason240 12y ago
  When freelancing the general rule is assume that will be spending 1/3 of your time with no billable work, and you need to build that into your rate. That leaves you with $83,000/year, and you still have to pay for healthcare and vacation time. This rule especially applies to short, 2 day jobs like this. How likely is that you will be able to roll through a string of ~20 hour jobs with no downtime?
morgante 12y ago
> It's not an appropriate payment for two days work. At 8 hours a day, that's $100/hr. Even for NYC, that's considered decent for a front-end developer. Not sure what standard you're judging this against that $100/hr is ridiculous.
VLM 12y ago
"It's not an appropriate payment for two days work." This is based on an assumption that there's only one (high) standard of work. For a kid trying to get one of his classmates to do his homework assignment for him, that doesn't sound too far out of line for "my first web project" level of quality. You pay chickenfeed you get chickens. Sometimes for sound business reasons or real world issues you want chickens, not a soaring eagle. The business world is ending a cycle of outsourcing where the mantra was "who cares about code quality, as long as its cheap".

aptwebapps 12y ago

Is this the same site that was involved in the brouhaha a month or two ago because projects were opted in by default and had a hard time opting out?

frostmatthew 12y ago
You may be thinking of tip4commit[1][2] [1] https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit https://github.com/tip4commit/tip4commit [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8542969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8542969
- aptwebapps 12y ago
  Yes, that was it. Thanks. I hope a similar issue doesn't arise here.