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Sad to see people misuse downvotes so much. A differing opinion or controversy is not a reason to bury a comment.

by kev009 12y ago

LukeB_UK 12y ago
If an upvote can be used as a sign of agreement, why can't a downvote be used as a sign of disagreement?
- andybak 12y ago
  Because any online community where that attitude prevails degenerates into an echo-chamber. Voting is meant to promote quality contributions and increase the overall quality of the site. A site where dissent is pushed out of site would be very dull.
- cubano 12y ago
  An upvote should be a sign that the comment-er did a good to great job of explaining a position that may or may not align with your confirmation bias and other thoughts, not a simple "I agree" signal.
- derekp7 12y ago
  A downvote isn't the opposite of an upvote. An upvote can function somewhat like a teacher giving a student a gold star, but for the most part it primarily highlights good content (not necessarily that you agree with the content), above average content. A downvote, however, also functions as a punishment, a demerit, a warning. A message that "We don't want your kind around here", with real consequences (getting banned, etc). The problem is that it lumps inane content (or "graffiti" content) with posts that are an unpopular opinion. I've often seen downvoted comments that still end up generating a lot of interesting discussion, and I'm glad that those comments were made. But since a downvote is a punishment, often times people will second guess if they should post something interesting just in case it is taken the wrong way by someone. That's happened enough to me that now I very seldom comment on any thread that has any type of controversy in it, just because I know that someone will get upset no matter what. (Maybe a fix for this is to make it free to give upvotes, but downvotes can only be given if you've purchased them with some of your own karma points).
  - Pyxl101 12y ago
    > But since a downvote is a punishment, often times people will second guess if they should post something interesting just in case it is taken the wrong way by someone. Yes. A thousand times yes. I finally had to create a second "alter ego" account just so I would stop censoring myself. I have ended up, as expected, getting a small number of downvotes and comment flags from people who simply didn't like what I had to say. Even when what I said was a factual summary backed by strong scientific evidence for which I provided citations (with only minimal opinion sprinkled in).
  - LukeB_UK 12y ago
    They're imaginary Internet points. Losing some because you were downvoted makes no difference to anything in your life.
Lewton 12y ago
jacquesms comment is* completely contentless. I didn't downvote it but it's not exactly a high quality comment. edit: *was
jacquesm 12y ago
They have a point. I was way too short in my original comment, a bit of explanation why I thought that way would have been better, too many assumptions on my part.

Sad to see people misuse downvotes so much. A differing opinion or controversy is not a reason to bury a comment.

by kev009 12y ago

Sad to see people misuse downvotes so much. A differing opinion or controversy is not a reason to bury a comment.

LukeB_UK 12y ago

If an upvote can be used as a sign of agreement, why can't a downvote be used as a sign of disagreement?

andybak 12y ago
Because any online community where that attitude prevails degenerates into an echo-chamber. Voting is meant to promote quality contributions and increase the overall quality of the site. A site where dissent is pushed out of site would be very dull.
cubano 12y ago
An upvote should be a sign that the comment-er did a good to great job of explaining a position that may or may not align with your confirmation bias and other thoughts, not a simple "I agree" signal.
derekp7 12y ago
A downvote isn't the opposite of an upvote. An upvote can function somewhat like a teacher giving a student a gold star, but for the most part it primarily highlights good content (not necessarily that you agree with the content), above average content. A downvote, however, also functions as a punishment, a demerit, a warning. A message that "We don't want your kind around here", with real consequences (getting banned, etc). The problem is that it lumps inane content (or "graffiti" content) with posts that are an unpopular opinion. I've often seen downvoted comments that still end up generating a lot of interesting discussion, and I'm glad that those comments were made. But since a downvote is a punishment, often times people will second guess if they should post something interesting just in case it is taken the wrong way by someone. That's happened enough to me that now I very seldom comment on any thread that has any type of controversy in it, just because I know that someone will get upset no matter what. (Maybe a fix for this is to make it free to give upvotes, but downvotes can only be given if you've purchased them with some of your own karma points).
- Pyxl101 12y ago
  > But since a downvote is a punishment, often times people will second guess if they should post something interesting just in case it is taken the wrong way by someone. Yes. A thousand times yes. I finally had to create a second "alter ego" account just so I would stop censoring myself. I have ended up, as expected, getting a small number of downvotes and comment flags from people who simply didn't like what I had to say. Even when what I said was a factual summary backed by strong scientific evidence for which I provided citations (with only minimal opinion sprinkled in).
- LukeB_UK 12y ago
  They're imaginary Internet points. Losing some because you were downvoted makes no difference to anything in your life.

Lewton 12y ago

jacquesms comment is* completely contentless. I didn't downvote it but it's not exactly a high quality comment. edit: *was

jacquesm 12y ago

They have a point. I was way too short in my original comment, a bit of explanation why I thought that way would have been better, too many assumptions on my part.