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I love Wave's instant typing. Chat happens so much faster, and both parties stay engaged instead of drifting away while they wait. It raises the bandwidth. Thi

by nwinter 17y ago

I love Wave's instant typing. Chat happens so much faster, and both parties stay engaged instead of drifting away while they wait. It raises the bandwidth. This kind of editing isn't something you could have turned off by default in Wave, because otherwise you can't have multiple people editing the same thing at a time. For blips authored by one person, you could--and that'll be an option. I hope people don't use it, though.

furyg3 17y ago
Chat happens so much faster, and both parties stay engaged instead of drifting away while they wait. What's wrong with drifting away? :) This will sound cocky, but: I'm multitasking chat conversations simultaneously, can type fast, and can express my thoughts quickly. I'm sure a lot of Hackers are in this category. Why should I sit there with someone who's not so great at those things and watch them struggle along at typing, thinking, or pausing in the middle of a sentence because someone walked in the room? I'll be over here, just give me a visual beep and I'll instantly be back. Put another way, I'm learning a foreign language at the moment, and I wouldn't dare want to put my native speaker friends through watching me find the right article... If I want a high-bandwidth, high-commitment, high-intensity medium, (or to make my friends suffer through my horrible Dutch) I'll use voice or video.
- nwinter 17y ago
  Drifting away when the bandwidth is low is fine and can still be done. I should have said that avoiding drifting is novel for me when both (or more than two) parties are capable of expressing themselves quickly (both typing and composition). I just never had that experience before except in person. (Even voice and video were just laggy enough to make them lower bandwidth than face-to-face talking.) Voice and video are fine, too, but there's no easy record of what happened, they're one-to-one only, and you still can't talk at the same time or edit what you say. And if you say something complicated, it can't be reread until grokked. Plus, you can't use them as easily with people you don't know as well. Maybe I'm not explaining it clearly. I've just had great experiences with Wave so far, having discussions that I would have only been able to have in person (and would not afterward have a record of), at even higher speeds than I would have had in person. That's cool.

by nwinter 17y ago

furyg3 17y ago

Chat happens so much faster, and both parties stay engaged instead of drifting away while they wait. What's wrong with drifting away? :) This will sound cocky, but: I'm multitasking chat conversations simultaneously, can type fast, and can express my thoughts quickly. I'm sure a lot of Hackers are in this category. Why should I sit there with someone who's not so great at those things and watch them struggle along at typing, thinking, or pausing in the middle of a sentence because someone walked in the room? I'll be over here, just give me a visual beep and I'll instantly be back. Put another way, I'm learning a foreign language at the moment, and I wouldn't dare want to put my native speaker friends through watching me find the right article... If I want a high-bandwidth, high-commitment, high-intensity medium, (or to make my friends suffer through my horrible Dutch) I'll use voice or video.

nwinter 17y ago
Drifting away when the bandwidth is low is fine and can still be done. I should have said that avoiding drifting is novel for me when both (or more than two) parties are capable of expressing themselves quickly (both typing and composition). I just never had that experience before except in person. (Even voice and video were just laggy enough to make them lower bandwidth than face-to-face talking.) Voice and video are fine, too, but there's no easy record of what happened, they're one-to-one only, and you still can't talk at the same time or edit what you say. And if you say something complicated, it can't be reread until grokked. Plus, you can't use them as easily with people you don't know as well. Maybe I'm not explaining it clearly. I've just had great experiences with Wave so far, having discussions that I would have only been able to have in person (and would not afterward have a record of), at even higher speeds than I would have had in person. That's cool.