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I'm sure they are doing a lot of great work. However, I really do not like the idea of having one company to serve all major websites of the internet. Should on

by 150 12y ago

I'm sure they are doing a lot of great work. However, I really do not like the idea of having one company to serve all major websites of the internet. Should one not focus on a better solution to ddos-attacks than putting everything into the hands of a single entity..?

eugeneionesco 12y ago
>I really do not like the idea of having one company to serve all major websites of the internet So what are you doing about this? Do you have started working on something one can contribute to?
- 150 12y ago
  Does one need to offer an alternative for voicing a concern?
medecau 12y ago
I guess it comes down to how easy it is to set up and forget about it. It may not be what the general user likes but it is so easy to set up that it becomes prevalent. Unlike sibling I won't ask what you've done in this regard but I'll leave the request for a list of what alternatives are currently available.
- 150 12y ago
  Fully agree that the ease of use combined with a lack of alternatives makes a compelling argument pro CF. And I'm afraid I cannot think of a better solution than at least hope for a forseeable competition will lead to the big sites being spread among several reverse-proxying-companies - instead of them all being served by CF. So far, they seem to be doing great work and consequently outperform everyone else.
davidy123 12y ago
It's not hard to make your own Cloudflare-alike. I helped bootstrap this for an organization in the non profit space which now serves dozens of threatened web sites. I even created a monitoring/rotation system that takes care of much of the minute to minute work. The hard part outside state funding is making it profitable / sustainable for real emergencies. But the nature of DDOS is it's largely about fighting fire with fire so basically needs a lot of distributed hosts. This is an area I'd like to see a peer solution be successful, a bittorrent for hosting with no central dependencies.
- mxpxrocks10 12y ago
  right on. what did you use for your stack when you bootstrapped?
  - davidy123 12y ago
    Pretty basic stuff. Apache traffic server, nagios, the monitoring/rotation is in nodejs, some scripts to tie it together and a lot of cheap VMs around the world. You can learn more about it at https://wiki.deflect.ca/wiki/Main_Page https://wiki.deflect.ca/wiki/Main_Page , but I'm no longer involved in that project.

by 150 12y ago

eugeneionesco 12y ago

>I really do not like the idea of having one company to serve all major websites of the internet So what are you doing about this? Do you have started working on something one can contribute to?

150 12y ago
Does one need to offer an alternative for voicing a concern?

medecau 12y ago

I guess it comes down to how easy it is to set up and forget about it. It may not be what the general user likes but it is so easy to set up that it becomes prevalent. Unlike sibling I won't ask what you've done in this regard but I'll leave the request for a list of what alternatives are currently available.

150 12y ago
Fully agree that the ease of use combined with a lack of alternatives makes a compelling argument pro CF. And I'm afraid I cannot think of a better solution than at least hope for a forseeable competition will lead to the big sites being spread among several reverse-proxying-companies - instead of them all being served by CF. So far, they seem to be doing great work and consequently outperform everyone else.

davidy123 12y ago

It's not hard to make your own Cloudflare-alike. I helped bootstrap this for an organization in the non profit space which now serves dozens of threatened web sites. I even created a monitoring/rotation system that takes care of much of the minute to minute work. The hard part outside state funding is making it profitable / sustainable for real emergencies. But the nature of DDOS is it's largely about fighting fire with fire so basically needs a lot of distributed hosts. This is an area I'd like to see a peer solution be successful, a bittorrent for hosting with no central dependencies.

mxpxrocks10 12y ago
right on. what did you use for your stack when you bootstrapped?
- davidy123 12y ago
  Pretty basic stuff. Apache traffic server, nagios, the monitoring/rotation is in nodejs, some scripts to tie it together and a lot of cheap VMs around the world. You can learn more about it at https://wiki.deflect.ca/wiki/Main_Page https://wiki.deflect.ca/wiki/Main_Page , but I'm no longer involved in that project.