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You nailed it. I started my own business because it was this or nothing at all. I got a job but it was just plain awful environment. There was absolutely nothin

You nailed it. I started my own business because it was this or nothing at all. I got a job but it was just plain awful environment. There was absolutely nothing great about employed but when you become unemployed starting your own business is the only choice. It's unfortunate that the employment market is filled with engineers who continually undercut each other because employers are looking to save as much as possible and have ample amount of desperate people readily available to replace whoever is burnt out. Good luck to everyone in 2015. Hopefully this is the year where all the work I put in starting my own SaaS will pay off.

raincom 12y ago
It is not engineers who are undercutting each other. It is the staffing companies, who I call as pimps. They are doing much damage to the contract rates. There is another thing going on: kickbacks to managers from staffing companies.
- curiously 12y ago
  yes you are correct thats why i fucking ignore if someone contacts me on linked and he's a recruiter. I tell fuck you. here, buy my software instead.
  - rbanffy 12y ago
    A better approach is to just name your price, adjusted for the benefits you will have to pay out of your pocket. In Brazil, my contractor rate is about twice my full-time employee rate to account for all benefits I'll have to pay on my own and the reduced income taxes I'll pay.
- Iftheshoefits 12y ago
  Engineers undercut each other all the time, implicitly, by going for the "do what you love and be paid for it!" nonsense companies throw, by feverishly working on unsupported open source projects for notoriety or to participate in the new culture of "github profile required or we won't consider you," and other ways I'm not listing here. Those recruiters wouldn't be able to do what they do without at least some tacit approval or participation of labor.

raincom 12y ago

It is not engineers who are undercutting each other. It is the staffing companies, who I call as pimps. They are doing much damage to the contract rates. There is another thing going on: kickbacks to managers from staffing companies.

curiously 12y ago
yes you are correct thats why i fucking ignore if someone contacts me on linked and he's a recruiter. I tell fuck you. here, buy my software instead.
- rbanffy 12y ago
  A better approach is to just name your price, adjusted for the benefits you will have to pay out of your pocket. In Brazil, my contractor rate is about twice my full-time employee rate to account for all benefits I'll have to pay on my own and the reduced income taxes I'll pay.
Iftheshoefits 12y ago
Engineers undercut each other all the time, implicitly, by going for the "do what you love and be paid for it!" nonsense companies throw, by feverishly working on unsupported open source projects for notoriety or to participate in the new culture of "github profile required or we won't consider you," and other ways I'm not listing here. Those recruiters wouldn't be able to do what they do without at least some tacit approval or participation of labor.