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So, jay-walkers in non-reflective clothing, at night?

spdustin 12y ago
No. Well educated and innocent pedestrians who cross at crosswalks but are clobbered by hurried drivers who don't recognize that they actually need to look out for pedestrians in between gawking at their cell phones and eating an Egg McMuffin.
- mytochar 12y ago
  They said at night. That's not early in the morning when they're eating a McMuffin and too busy to be doing their real job of driving around. This is at night. There's probably an equal number of: * giggling drunkards crossing the street * jaywalkers who think it's the middle of the night and obviously no car would be coming * people who think black is reflective as they walk into the road to cross a street on a dark road * giggling people not paying attention * pedestrians staring at their phones crossing the street without looking And * inattentive drivers * sleepy drivers * drivers looking at their cell phone It's not always the driver's fault, especially in cities where speeds tend to be lower. In some cities, people meandering around inattentively are VERY hard to predict movement of. Please note, I'm not saying that it's never the driver's fault either; but, the whole situation is a give and take for everyone. No cars in city centers except maybe public transit of some description would be pretty great, I think, in general.
  - pja 12y ago
    Note that "jay-walking" is something that the US car industry came up with in order to drive pedestrians off the road and clear the way for vehicular traffic so that they could sell more cars. In much of the rest of the world, the concept barely exists & many people find the idea that pedestrians are somehow automatically at fault simply for being on the road when someone drives their vehicle into them almost offensive. Why should the driver's right of way be preferred to the pedestrians'?
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rodgerd 12y ago
"jay-walking" is not, in fact, a law in many parts of the world, and even where it is, it hardly excuses a lack of attention.

No. Well educated and innocent pedestrians who cross at crosswalks but are clobbered by hurried drivers who don't recognize that they actually need to look out for pedestrians in between gawking at their cell phones and eating an Egg McMuffin.

mytochar 12y ago
They said at night. That's not early in the morning when they're eating a McMuffin and too busy to be doing their real job of driving around. This is at night. There's probably an equal number of: * giggling drunkards crossing the street * jaywalkers who think it's the middle of the night and obviously no car would be coming * people who think black is reflective as they walk into the road to cross a street on a dark road * giggling people not paying attention * pedestrians staring at their phones crossing the street without looking And * inattentive drivers * sleepy drivers * drivers looking at their cell phone It's not always the driver's fault, especially in cities where speeds tend to be lower. In some cities, people meandering around inattentively are VERY hard to predict movement of. Please note, I'm not saying that it's never the driver's fault either; but, the whole situation is a give and take for everyone. No cars in city centers except maybe public transit of some description would be pretty great, I think, in general.
- pja 12y ago
  Note that "jay-walking" is something that the US car industry came up with in order to drive pedestrians off the road and clear the way for vehicular traffic so that they could sell more cars. In much of the rest of the world, the concept barely exists & many people find the idea that pedestrians are somehow automatically at fault simply for being on the road when someone drives their vehicle into them almost offensive. Why should the driver's right of way be preferred to the pedestrians'?
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rodgerd 12y ago

"jay-walking" is not, in fact, a law in many parts of the world, and even where it is, it hardly excuses a lack of attention.