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What do you mean by culture playing a role in fewer crashes in Sweden? >* Sparse, mostly rural population (with an unique culture). Moose kill a lot of Canadi

What do you mean by culture playing a role in fewer crashes in Sweden? >* Sparse, mostly rural population (with an unique culture). Moose kill a lot of Canadians in rural areas, dark brown fur in the dark countryside. Their legs are so long and moose are so heavy the crash through the windshield and kill the people in the front seats. There are a lot of crashes and deaths in my small province due to drinking and driving as well as lack of seatbelt use and the two combined make fore even more deaths when crashes do occur. Plus everyone it seems drive 15 year-old cars that are not maintained.

protomyth 12y ago
"Plus everyone it seems drive 15 year-old cars that are not maintained" I had access to a study done in the 90's that basically talked about the condition of cars and relation to income. A lot of low income rural folks have a single vehicle that has not been to over half of its required maintenance visits. It also doesn't help that you can get high temperatures in the summer and really low temps in the winter. The range is pretty incredible for Northern US and Canada.
- dghughes 12y ago
  Add to that salt on the roads in the winter and salt spray from the ocean in the summer.
dschiptsov 12y ago
When an old lady drives her car 80 km/h on a road with speed limit of 90, most of the drivers happily follow her instead of overtaking, and you could see such kinds of "caravans" very often. After a hockey game, one could see a few kilometer long caravans of cars while not a single one is trying to move on the opposite lane to overtake which is absolutely unimaginable situation in social shitholes like Russia.
- darklajid 12y ago
  I'm genuinely curious: Do you consider overtaking evil, if the road is fine/the conditions are okay and the driver in front of you just .. likes to go slow (like the old lady in your example)? For me that'd be a very good reason to leave her behind, IFF the conditions are right.
  - dschiptsov 12y ago
    Of course not.) The idea here is that anxious rushing is not part of local tradition But if a hypothetical old lady would drive 75 or 70, she would've been overtaken mercilessly.
johansch 12y ago
Moose collissions are similarly common in rural areas in Sweden. Here's a spectacular day-time example caught on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY8YBF8dHQo#t=14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY8YBF8dHQo#t=14
- PhantomGremlin 12y ago
  They don't have Darwin Awards for animals, but maybe they should start. It's hard to be sure because it's a short clip, but that moose seemed to be very nonchalant about what it was doing. Maybe it's just that if they grow up next to a constant stream of moving cars (that have never hurt them before) they simply become inured to all the activity.
  - johansch 12y ago
    To be fair, I think that's a pretty young one (1.5-2.5 years old?).
userbinator 12y ago
Safety is probably quite deeply ingrained in the Swedish culture - so much that, for many years, Volvo's slogan was "drive safely".
- aragot 12y ago
  Volvo even gave away their patent on the 3-point seatbelt patent, to the benefit of the security for everyone. http://jalopnik.com/volvo-gave-away-their-most-important-invention-to-save-1069825878 http://jalopnik.com/volvo-gave-away-their-most-important-inv...

protomyth 12y ago

"Plus everyone it seems drive 15 year-old cars that are not maintained" I had access to a study done in the 90's that basically talked about the condition of cars and relation to income. A lot of low income rural folks have a single vehicle that has not been to over half of its required maintenance visits. It also doesn't help that you can get high temperatures in the summer and really low temps in the winter. The range is pretty incredible for Northern US and Canada.

dghughes 12y ago
Add to that salt on the roads in the winter and salt spray from the ocean in the summer.

dschiptsov 12y ago

When an old lady drives her car 80 km/h on a road with speed limit of 90, most of the drivers happily follow her instead of overtaking, and you could see such kinds of "caravans" very often. After a hockey game, one could see a few kilometer long caravans of cars while not a single one is trying to move on the opposite lane to overtake which is absolutely unimaginable situation in social shitholes like Russia.

darklajid 12y ago
I'm genuinely curious: Do you consider overtaking evil, if the road is fine/the conditions are okay and the driver in front of you just .. likes to go slow (like the old lady in your example)? For me that'd be a very good reason to leave her behind, IFF the conditions are right.
- dschiptsov 12y ago
  Of course not.) The idea here is that anxious rushing is not part of local tradition But if a hypothetical old lady would drive 75 or 70, she would've been overtaken mercilessly.

johansch 12y ago

Moose collissions are similarly common in rural areas in Sweden. Here's a spectacular day-time example caught on video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY8YBF8dHQo#t=14 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY8YBF8dHQo#t=14

PhantomGremlin 12y ago
They don't have Darwin Awards for animals, but maybe they should start. It's hard to be sure because it's a short clip, but that moose seemed to be very nonchalant about what it was doing. Maybe it's just that if they grow up next to a constant stream of moving cars (that have never hurt them before) they simply become inured to all the activity.
- johansch 12y ago
  To be fair, I think that's a pretty young one (1.5-2.5 years old?).

userbinator 12y ago

Safety is probably quite deeply ingrained in the Swedish culture - so much that, for many years, Volvo's slogan was "drive safely".

aragot 12y ago
Volvo even gave away their patent on the 3-point seatbelt patent, to the benefit of the security for everyone. http://jalopnik.com/volvo-gave-away-their-most-important-invention-to-save-1069825878 http://jalopnik.com/volvo-gave-away-their-most-important-inv...