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Why would they have any incentive to contact you? From their perspective the problem is solved -- the material offending statist is out of sight, out of mind.

Why would they have any incentive to contact you? From their perspective the problem is solved -- the material offending statist is out of sight, out of mind. You're the one who wants a different situation to exist. Governments aren't in the customer service business.

nicksergeant 12y ago
I actually don't care at all, but sucks for developers in India who 1) want to use Snipt or 2) have already paid for it. Edit: on item 2, I'll happily refund any Indian developers who've already paid for Snipt and want their money back, but my point is valid.
- seanp2k2 12y ago
  And of course, apathy is the other big problem with US attitudes about government.
  - jeremyjh 12y ago
    You do realize that it's the Indian government at issue here, right?
    - bigphishy 12y ago
      I would argue that the indian government is doing this at the pressure from the united states government.
      - chris_wot 12y ago
        Zero evidence and sheer implausibility makes for a great conspiracy theory.
      - Vivtek 12y ago
        So why is India the only country to have taken this step?
jusben1369 12y ago
"Governments aren't in the customer service business" - Errr actually that's exactly the business democratic governments are in. Not saying they don't fail regularly but when you are elected by the people for the people you'd better be prepared to provide customer service.
- iopq 12y ago
  Except most people won't know about this or care. You get the government you deserve, which is to say, a shitty one.
  - chetanahuja 12y ago
    Don't know why you're being downvoted. This is absolutely correct. Even more so for India than, say, the US (source: I'm Indian). Nobody but a tiny tiny fraction of the population cares that github is getting blocked. The opposition wouldn't even bother making it a big issue since the numbers are so insignificant. And even if they did, they don't really have a moral leg to stand on because all politicians and government officials, almost without exception (ok.. maybe with some rare exceptions) are eager to use censorship when it suites their purposes (usually under the pretext of national security... but even that figleaf is not always necessary).
- honeybooboo123 12y ago
  Oh come on. Whenever the public actually demands something, the government's response is always batons, tear-gas and rubber bullets (and some torture thrown in for good measure, of course). You call that customer service? Imagine McDonald's tasing you for complaining about not getting what you ordered. -That's exactly how governments behave. As a recent example, China and HK declare that from now on, Hong Kong's electoral candidates will be chosen by the tyrants in Beijing. HK's citizens protest. HK's police forces brutalize the citizens.
code_duck 12y ago
Governments should be in the customer service business. Typically, they provide many services that, if they were provided by private companies, which they very well could be, would be customer service oriented. The concept that a government employees such as police are not working for the people is exactly what's wrong with the attitudes surrounding police in the United States. They are providing a service that we pay for as taxpayers, and theoretically, we are their employers, or customers.
- iopq 12y ago
  You're not a customer because you're being forced to pay. You have no choice in the matter. If they provide really really bad service you still have to pay.
  - code_duck 12y ago
    Sure, that's the situation in a monopoly. It's not that we're not in a customer role, just that we're poorly served customers of a monopoly where management doesn't seem to understand for whom they're working. If the whole system wasn't sondysfunctional, poor service would be addressed by our elected representatives, who are supposed to be properly planning government services for us.
    - iopq 12y ago
      Government services are by definition a monopoly because there is only one government in your country. It's a bit worse, though. If there's a monopoly on electricity I can just stop paying and get a generator. If there is a monopoly on air flights I could drive or take a boat. However, if I stop paying the government I go to prison.

nicksergeant 12y ago

I actually don't care at all, but sucks for developers in India who 1) want to use Snipt or 2) have already paid for it. Edit: on item 2, I'll happily refund any Indian developers who've already paid for Snipt and want their money back, but my point is valid.

seanp2k2 12y ago
And of course, apathy is the other big problem with US attitudes about government.
- jeremyjh 12y ago
  You do realize that it's the Indian government at issue here, right?
  - bigphishy 12y ago
    I would argue that the indian government is doing this at the pressure from the united states government.
    - chris_wot 12y ago
      Zero evidence and sheer implausibility makes for a great conspiracy theory.
    - Vivtek 12y ago
      So why is India the only country to have taken this step?

jusben1369 12y ago

"Governments aren't in the customer service business" - Errr actually that's exactly the business democratic governments are in. Not saying they don't fail regularly but when you are elected by the people for the people you'd better be prepared to provide customer service.

iopq 12y ago
Except most people won't know about this or care. You get the government you deserve, which is to say, a shitty one.
- chetanahuja 12y ago
  Don't know why you're being downvoted. This is absolutely correct. Even more so for India than, say, the US (source: I'm Indian). Nobody but a tiny tiny fraction of the population cares that github is getting blocked. The opposition wouldn't even bother making it a big issue since the numbers are so insignificant. And even if they did, they don't really have a moral leg to stand on because all politicians and government officials, almost without exception (ok.. maybe with some rare exceptions) are eager to use censorship when it suites their purposes (usually under the pretext of national security... but even that figleaf is not always necessary).
honeybooboo123 12y ago
Oh come on. Whenever the public actually demands something, the government's response is always batons, tear-gas and rubber bullets (and some torture thrown in for good measure, of course). You call that customer service? Imagine McDonald's tasing you for complaining about not getting what you ordered. -That's exactly how governments behave. As a recent example, China and HK declare that from now on, Hong Kong's electoral candidates will be chosen by the tyrants in Beijing. HK's citizens protest. HK's police forces brutalize the citizens.

code_duck 12y ago

Governments should be in the customer service business. Typically, they provide many services that, if they were provided by private companies, which they very well could be, would be customer service oriented. The concept that a government employees such as police are not working for the people is exactly what's wrong with the attitudes surrounding police in the United States. They are providing a service that we pay for as taxpayers, and theoretically, we are their employers, or customers.

iopq 12y ago
You're not a customer because you're being forced to pay. You have no choice in the matter. If they provide really really bad service you still have to pay.
- code_duck 12y ago
  Sure, that's the situation in a monopoly. It's not that we're not in a customer role, just that we're poorly served customers of a monopoly where management doesn't seem to understand for whom they're working. If the whole system wasn't sondysfunctional, poor service would be addressed by our elected representatives, who are supposed to be properly planning government services for us.
  - iopq 12y ago
    Government services are by definition a monopoly because there is only one government in your country. It's a bit worse, though. If there's a monopoly on electricity I can just stop paying and get a generator. If there is a monopoly on air flights I could drive or take a boat. However, if I stop paying the government I go to prison.