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It's not shared I believe. It's like 1km where northbound traffic has two lanes, and then 1 km where it has just one lane and southbound has 2 lanes. Not Swede
by wwosik 12y ago
It's not shared I believe. It's like 1km where northbound traffic has two lanes, and then 1 km where it has just one lane and southbound has 2 lanes.
Not Sweden, but you can see an example here: https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Zyrard%C3%B3w/@52.0700711,20.3753902,3a,75y,103.21h,90.64t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swjjVN9BvNLxEcEbuh6Iegg!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x471944c794a8145b:0x81ced2f5df4d3278?hl=pl https://www.google.pl/maps/place/Zyrard%C3%B3w/@52.0700711,2...
- thomasahle 12y agoAh that makes sense. I have seen those roads before. However I've also heard that in crowded situations it's actually faster for everyone to have just two separated lanes (no overtaking). Because the constant lane merging slows everybody down.
- dalke 12y agoQuoting from the "2+1 road" Wikipedia entry: "It turned out that not only did safety improve, but it was also easier to overtake than before as the 2-lane sections provide safe overtaking opportunities." "After some good experiences with test roads the system has been used often in places where the amount of traffic does not justify construction of a dual carriageway expressway but remote rural areas should be connected to major towns with a high speed road."
- thrownaway2424 12y agoMy experience with this type of road in america is that slow people go slow when they have one lane and then they speed up when their direction has two lanes, making it harder to overtake them in the designated section. This is infuriating, of course. In America drivers aware not trained in throttle control, speed control, or lane discipline so their behavior in these situations is usually a combination of the worst possibilities.
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- mytochar 12y agoThat's so incredibly true! But, I'd rather have the passing lane appear periodically than not. One of my favorite roads in Washington State is Highway 2. On this road, we have the periodic passing lane, at least when we're going Eastbound, we do. Westbound has fewer of those passing lanes; though, I think the lane in the Eastbound side is dashed, so you can actually pass using it if there's not much traffic going Eastbound. Nevertheless, when stuck behind someone who is clearly not following the "more than 5 people behind you: pull over" rule, I long desperately for the passing lane to come, as it appears all the time for the Eastbounders. I have seen exactly the problem you're describing on /several/ occasions; but, I wouldn't give up the double-lane road, because sometimes people do stay their previous speed and you /can/ pass them. This road is a mountain pass, and so there are several curvy sections, all of which are too dangerous to pass in because you can't see far enough to confirm no cars are coming. When the road grows to 2 + 1 again, you'll see several people enthusiastically pass the slow person and from their slower speeds. tl;dr: live in the US, love the 2+1 lane when it's around.
- lutorm 12y agoWikipedia did not mention a big drawback with these roads, though: If there is an accident, a vehicle breaks down, or a truck gets stuck in snow (this is Sweden, after all), there is no way for emergency personnel to get to the scene except by going the opposite way. And there is absolutely no way for traffic to get around an obstacle until the center cables are removed.
- alkonaut 12y agoThe "1" part of the road is always wide enough to just barely fit 2 vehicles so an ambulance can always pass a broken down vehicle.
- lutorm 12y agoWell, in this case the slow vehicles are mostly trucks, which have a lower speed limit. So if you didn't provide a way of overtaking, a single truck would drop the speed for everyone from 120km/h to 80km/h or whatever the speed limits are now.