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The only programs I know that pin themselves are Chrome and Firefox(?!). IMO all apps should have a pin to taskbar at the end of installation. I like them to be

by batrat 12y ago

The only programs I know that pin themselves are Chrome and Firefox(?!). IMO all apps should have a pin to taskbar at the end of installation. I like them to be there, same as OSX.

stinos 12y ago
IMO all apps should have a pin to taskbar at the end of installation. Opinions differ :] Please, NO. I am the one deciding what my desktop looks like. After all I am the one who uses it. Just like I detest the installers which slam their shortcut on the desktop without permission, I feel the same towards those trying to do that to the taskbar. Even more so, as it has less room. Put yourself in the start menu without explicitely asking: ok, you have to put it somewhere to be discoverable on Windows.
- EpicEng 12y ago
  Agreed, but i would appreciate the option, disabled by default.
  - stinos 12y ago
    You mean system-wide? That would be nifty - but probably hard to accomplish in a way that can never be circumvented.
    - EpicEng 12y ago
      Well, yeah, that would be nice, but I meant as a "standard" installer option, like the "Add to start menu" and "Create Desktop Icon" options.
crazysim 12y ago
I don't know. Doesn't OS X only keep apps in the Dock if they are (assuming bottom Dock): * Dragged to the left from their original "spawn" position on the right. * Explicitly set to "Keep in Dock" through the context menu. Otherwise, the app will disappear from the Dock once it has quit. The only app I know off the top of my head to install onto the Dock explicitly during installation is Microsoft Office.
barrkel 12y ago
Not including games and command line utilities, I probably have at least 40 different apps installed, many of which have multiple executables associated. It would be madness. Am not a fan of OS X's dock, obscuring the difference between started and unstarted apps. But it doesn't even behave like you describe, you normally have to fish the icon out of that drawer. That's usually too tedious, so apps are generally started by searching - spotlight or Alfred. Smells like design failure to me though.
usea 12y ago
I have nothing pinned at all, and it would be crazy IMO to pin everything by default. I'd have to unpin every program I install. Isn't that what the start screen is for? Aren't pinned programs supposed to be the exception?
codeflo 12y ago
That would be madness, even "typical" users have more programs than could fit in the taskbar. You only want to pin your most important programs (the others can be launched by search), and it must be up to the user to decide which ones those are. (If you leave this to the application programmers, every application will declare itself super important.)
laumars 12y ago
Oh God no. Definitely not. I hated installers that put icons in the Quick Launch toolbar without asking, but pinned icons are even worse since it's not always immediately clear which programs are running.
basch 12y ago
remember when every program on the planet added itself to quicklaunch? microsoft wants your taskbar to be something you control. as a consequence most people dont know to pin things.

by batrat 12y ago

The only programs I know that pin themselves are Chrome and Firefox(?!). IMO all apps should have a pin to taskbar at the end of installation. I like them to be there, same as OSX.

stinos 12y ago

IMO all apps should have a pin to taskbar at the end of installation. Opinions differ :] Please, NO. I am the one deciding what my desktop looks like. After all I am the one who uses it. Just like I detest the installers which slam their shortcut on the desktop without permission, I feel the same towards those trying to do that to the taskbar. Even more so, as it has less room. Put yourself in the start menu without explicitely asking: ok, you have to put it somewhere to be discoverable on Windows.

EpicEng 12y ago
Agreed, but i would appreciate the option, disabled by default.
- stinos 12y ago
  You mean system-wide? That would be nifty - but probably hard to accomplish in a way that can never be circumvented.
  - EpicEng 12y ago
    Well, yeah, that would be nice, but I meant as a "standard" installer option, like the "Add to start menu" and "Create Desktop Icon" options.

crazysim 12y ago

I don't know. Doesn't OS X only keep apps in the Dock if they are (assuming bottom Dock): * Dragged to the left from their original "spawn" position on the right. * Explicitly set to "Keep in Dock" through the context menu. Otherwise, the app will disappear from the Dock once it has quit. The only app I know off the top of my head to install onto the Dock explicitly during installation is Microsoft Office.

barrkel 12y ago

Not including games and command line utilities, I probably have at least 40 different apps installed, many of which have multiple executables associated. It would be madness. Am not a fan of OS X's dock, obscuring the difference between started and unstarted apps. But it doesn't even behave like you describe, you normally have to fish the icon out of that drawer. That's usually too tedious, so apps are generally started by searching - spotlight or Alfred. Smells like design failure to me though.

usea 12y ago

I have nothing pinned at all, and it would be crazy IMO to pin everything by default. I'd have to unpin every program I install. Isn't that what the start screen is for? Aren't pinned programs supposed to be the exception?

codeflo 12y ago

That would be madness, even "typical" users have more programs than could fit in the taskbar. You only want to pin your most important programs (the others can be launched by search), and it must be up to the user to decide which ones those are. (If you leave this to the application programmers, every application will declare itself super important.)

laumars 12y ago

Oh God no. Definitely not. I hated installers that put icons in the Quick Launch toolbar without asking, but pinned icons are even worse since it's not always immediately clear which programs are running.

basch 12y ago

remember when every program on the planet added itself to quicklaunch? microsoft wants your taskbar to be something you control. as a consequence most people dont know to pin things.