Not my money :) Look, it's very easy. Just like those Steorn guys, you either produce something that's big and does something really strange -- or you don't. W

Not my money :) Look, it's very easy. Just like those Steorn guys, you either produce something that's big and does something really strange -- or you don't. What usually happens, as you know, is that the experimenter creates something that is basically reproducible lab error. So it's there, but it's small, and there doesn't seem to be an easy way to make it macro-sized. They run out of money, still convinced they're on to something. At that point you have the newspaper articles, the full-page ads, and so on. It's a well-trodden path, no doubt. But I don't see any of these guys appealing to mysticism or supernatural forces. All of them think that either they'll make something of wonder or it will fail. So both the people in question and the audience share some common framework. Just like watching people argue politics, it makes for a nice example of how really smart people can fool themselves. That's something we all can learn from. Plus I have unshakable faith that some sort of field propulsion possible, although I have no idea how far away it might be. I base this on many years of watching science fiction shows on TV <g>