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With stuff like this and others that the execs have been accused of, you have to wonder that type of people they are. Do they have a conscience or is it all ab

by finid 12y ago

With stuff like this and others that the execs have been accused of, you have to wonder that type of people they are. Do they have a conscience or is it all about money?

closetnerd 12y ago
What have the been accused of? Breaking a few city laws? The execs haven't committed rape or murder. They aren't infringing on people rights by sending the government our emails, texts or phone conversations; as far as I know. As far as businesses, and the objectives of any given one, go they're alright in my book. Patents, however, I am against.
- thrwy10 12y ago
  Shouldn't 'breaking a few city laws' land them in jail or with a hefty fine or something? If everyone 'breaks a few city laws', the situation would be unsustainable.
  - travisp 12y ago
    If you believe Gordon Crovitz (granted, his view is controversial), the average person commits three felonies a day: http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/09/28/three-felonies-a-day-say-it-aint-so-fellow-citizens/ http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/09/28/three-felonies-a-day-say...
  - closetnerd 12y ago
    If you're going to do that you probably wan't to commit every other business to jail as well. Might also consider committing yourself. And I'm not being snarky here. I seriously don't believe that all laws are inherently ethical or justified. Most times they get used by incumbent businesses to avoid competition.
- modfodder 12y ago
  Add sabotaging a competitor, spying on customers, and threatening to muckrake reporters to that list.
  - finid 12y ago
    As far as @closetnerd is concerned, that's just "breaking a few city laws". Provided they don't commit rape or murder, that's just fine by him.
    - closetnerd 12y ago
      Its true. I'm sure I'm breaking laws everyday. Your problem is that you assume that laws imply some sort of ethics we've all agreed to. But unless your a mindless zombie, you'd realize that quite a few laws don't make sense. And in business, you don't get very far if you're not some laws. Rest assured that every single successful business has broken laws and is likely continuing to do so.
  - closetnerd 12y ago
    The competitor claimed sabotage. Spying on customers? And I agree that the one informal comment made by one of the execs was stupid. But frankly there IS a war being waged against Uber by its competitor through the media.
at-fates-hands 12y ago
>>> Do they have a conscience or is it all about money? Don't kid yourself. Its ALL about the money. What Uber is doing is simply trying to find the easiest way to make money regardless of who they stampeded in the process. Owning a business is 99% about crushing your competition, establishing a monopoly and making as much money for yourself or your share holders. Sure, when you get to a certain level (think Google, Apple, GM) you start to show a little more compassion and have charities you support and do good things for the environment to prop up your public image. But up till then, it's full bore cut throat. If you're not in it to win and dominate, then you're going to get steamrolled by someone else who has that attitude.
- higherpurpose 12y ago
  Just like Zynga. "Who?" - Yeah, exactly.
  - toomuchtodo 12y ago
    Are we going to start taking bets on when Uber turns into the Webvan of the mobility space?
  - ElComradio 12y ago
    That's the company that made a ton of money while providing an entertainment service for millions, who happily used part of their discretionary income for the experience, creating untold millions of hours of enjoyment for wide segments of the populace previously underserved by the video game industry, and still has over a billion dollars in cash on hand.
    - keville 12y ago
      Please don't apologize for Zynga. They are the meth dealers in the universe in which Uber are pimps. http://techcrunch.com/2009/11/06/zynga-scamville-mark-pinkus-faceboo/ http://techcrunch.com/2009/11/06/zynga-scamville-mark-pinkus...
      - 12y ago

by finid 12y ago

With stuff like this and others that the execs have been accused of, you have to wonder that type of people they are. Do they have a conscience or is it all about money?

closetnerd 12y ago

What have the been accused of? Breaking a few city laws? The execs haven't committed rape or murder. They aren't infringing on people rights by sending the government our emails, texts or phone conversations; as far as I know. As far as businesses, and the objectives of any given one, go they're alright in my book. Patents, however, I am against.

thrwy10 12y ago
Shouldn't 'breaking a few city laws' land them in jail or with a hefty fine or something? If everyone 'breaks a few city laws', the situation would be unsustainable.
- travisp 12y ago
  If you believe Gordon Crovitz (granted, his view is controversial), the average person commits three felonies a day: http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/09/28/three-felonies-a-day-say-it-aint-so-fellow-citizens/ http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2009/09/28/three-felonies-a-day-say...
- closetnerd 12y ago
  If you're going to do that you probably wan't to commit every other business to jail as well. Might also consider committing yourself. And I'm not being snarky here. I seriously don't believe that all laws are inherently ethical or justified. Most times they get used by incumbent businesses to avoid competition.
modfodder 12y ago
Add sabotaging a competitor, spying on customers, and threatening to muckrake reporters to that list.
- finid 12y ago
  As far as @closetnerd is concerned, that's just "breaking a few city laws". Provided they don't commit rape or murder, that's just fine by him.
  - closetnerd 12y ago
    Its true. I'm sure I'm breaking laws everyday. Your problem is that you assume that laws imply some sort of ethics we've all agreed to. But unless your a mindless zombie, you'd realize that quite a few laws don't make sense. And in business, you don't get very far if you're not some laws. Rest assured that every single successful business has broken laws and is likely continuing to do so.
- closetnerd 12y ago
  The competitor claimed sabotage. Spying on customers? And I agree that the one informal comment made by one of the execs was stupid. But frankly there IS a war being waged against Uber by its competitor through the media.

at-fates-hands 12y ago

>>> Do they have a conscience or is it all about money? Don't kid yourself. Its ALL about the money. What Uber is doing is simply trying to find the easiest way to make money regardless of who they stampeded in the process. Owning a business is 99% about crushing your competition, establishing a monopoly and making as much money for yourself or your share holders. Sure, when you get to a certain level (think Google, Apple, GM) you start to show a little more compassion and have charities you support and do good things for the environment to prop up your public image. But up till then, it's full bore cut throat. If you're not in it to win and dominate, then you're going to get steamrolled by someone else who has that attitude.

higherpurpose 12y ago
Just like Zynga. "Who?" - Yeah, exactly.
- toomuchtodo 12y ago
  Are we going to start taking bets on when Uber turns into the Webvan of the mobility space?
- ElComradio 12y ago
  That's the company that made a ton of money while providing an entertainment service for millions, who happily used part of their discretionary income for the experience, creating untold millions of hours of enjoyment for wide segments of the populace previously underserved by the video game industry, and still has over a billion dollars in cash on hand.
  - keville 12y ago
    Please don't apologize for Zynga. They are the meth dealers in the universe in which Uber are pimps. http://techcrunch.com/2009/11/06/zynga-scamville-mark-pinkus-faceboo/ http://techcrunch.com/2009/11/06/zynga-scamville-mark-pinkus...
    - 12y ago