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Not to mention, Nim still doesn't have a Wikipedia article because it is "not significant". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(disambiguation) http://en.wikipedi

by wbhart 12y ago

Not to mention, Nim still doesn't have a Wikipedia article because it is "not significant". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(disambiguation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(disambiguation)

laumars 12y ago
I can't see where it says Nim (programming language) is "not significant". Maybe the reason there isn't a Wikipedia article is as simple as because nobody who has an account on Wikipedia had heard of or thought to create an article on Nim. The solution to which is quite simple, go create an article.
- wbhart 12y ago
  It used to have a page. It was deleted because the language was not considered significant. This is a relatively famous case, referred to frequently.
  - def- 12y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nimrod_(programming_language)_(2nd_nomination) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletio... > Lacks reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability as required by WP:GNG. Every source is WP:PRIMARY. Every one of them. Googling turned up posts to online discussion forums but nothing useful. Additionally, I note that the decision to delete at the previous AfD was unanimous for the same reasons. > Perhaps think of it this way: a language becomes notable when people who haven't been involved in its creation start writing about it. If/when this language gets to that point you'll have no problem creating an article. At the moment, though, there just hasn't been enough uptake to get the coverage we need for notability. The problem is that most sources about Nim are by Araq or not reliable enough.
    - wbhart 12y ago
      I really dislike this policy when applied to programming languages. Things from pop culture are going to be referred to pervasively in the media and blogosphere, but programming languages don't get there without massive marketing pushes, press releases, etc. That doesn't mean a language is not itself notable. Anyway, there's plenty about Nim that is not primary: http://goran.krampe.se/2014/10/13/here-comes-nim/ http://goran.krampe.se/2014/10/13/here-comes-nim/ https://www.btbytes.com/notebooks/nimrod.html https://www.btbytes.com/notebooks/nimrod.html http://picheta.me/articles/2013/10/about-nimrods-features.html http://picheta.me/articles/2013/10/about-nimrods-features.ht... (by Dominic Picheta but external to Nim website) http://steved-imaginaryreal.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/nimrod-return-of-pascal.html http://steved-imaginaryreal.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/nimrod-re... http://vocalbit.com/posts/exploring-type-classes-in-nimrod.html http://vocalbit.com/posts/exploring-type-classes-in-nimrod.h... http://blog.ldlework.com/a-cursory-look-at-meta-programming-in-nim/ http://blog.ldlework.com/a-cursory-look-at-meta-programming-... http://joshfilstrup.com/posts/2014-10-27-2014-monads-in-nim.html http://joshfilstrup.com/posts/2014-10-27-2014-monads-in-nim.... http://ziotom78.blogspot.de/2014/01/experiments-with-nimrod.html http://ziotom78.blogspot.de/2014/01/experiments-with-nimrod.... http://progopedia.com/language/nimrod/ http://progopedia.com/language/nimrod/ https://geetduggal.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/consider-nimrod/ https://geetduggal.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/consider-nimrod/ http://www.drdobbs.com/open-source/nimrod-a-new-systems-programming-languag/240165321 http://www.drdobbs.com/open-source/nimrod-a-new-systems-prog... (by Andreas Rumpf - but definitely an indicator of notability) http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4749 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4749 http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2013/Oct-2013-10-05.what-i-like-about-the-nimrod-programming-language.html http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2013/Oct-2013-10-05.what-i-like-... http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nimrod http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nimrod (by Andreas Rumpf, but a sign of notability) http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/11/swift-string-interpolation-with-nimrod-macros.html http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/11/swift-string-interp... http://togototo.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/benchmarks-round-two-parallel-go-rust-d-scala-and-nimrod/ http://togototo.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/benchmarks-round-tw... http://felsin9.de/nnis/nimrod/nimrod-gpn14.pdf http://felsin9.de/nnis/nimrod/nimrod-gpn14.pdf http://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/nim/ http://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/nim/ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/nim?sort=votes&pagesize=50 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/nim?sort=votes&pag... http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/03/nimrod-for-cross-platform-software.html http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/03/nimrod-for-cross-pl... https://impythonist.wordpress.com/tag/nimrod/ https://impythonist.wordpress.com/tag/nimrod/ https://github.com/trending?l=nimrod https://github.com/trending?l=nimrod http://maniagnosis.crsr.net/2013/12/letterpress-cheating-in-nimrod.html http://maniagnosis.crsr.net/2013/12/letterpress-cheating-in-... That doesn't mean that the best resources aren't on the Nimrod website itself. But penalising a language for having excellent primary resources would be a bit crazy in my opinion.

by wbhart 12y ago

Not to mention, Nim still doesn't have a Wikipedia article because it is "not significant". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(disambiguation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nim_(disambiguation)

laumars 12y ago

I can't see where it says Nim (programming language) is "not significant". Maybe the reason there isn't a Wikipedia article is as simple as because nobody who has an account on Wikipedia had heard of or thought to create an article on Nim. The solution to which is quite simple, go create an article.

wbhart 12y ago
It used to have a page. It was deleted because the language was not considered significant. This is a relatively famous case, referred to frequently.
- def- 12y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nimrod_(programming_language)_(2nd_nomination) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletio... > Lacks reliable independent secondary sources to establish notability as required by WP:GNG. Every source is WP:PRIMARY. Every one of them. Googling turned up posts to online discussion forums but nothing useful. Additionally, I note that the decision to delete at the previous AfD was unanimous for the same reasons. > Perhaps think of it this way: a language becomes notable when people who haven't been involved in its creation start writing about it. If/when this language gets to that point you'll have no problem creating an article. At the moment, though, there just hasn't been enough uptake to get the coverage we need for notability. The problem is that most sources about Nim are by Araq or not reliable enough.
  - wbhart 12y ago
    I really dislike this policy when applied to programming languages. Things from pop culture are going to be referred to pervasively in the media and blogosphere, but programming languages don't get there without massive marketing pushes, press releases, etc. That doesn't mean a language is not itself notable. Anyway, there's plenty about Nim that is not primary: http://goran.krampe.se/2014/10/13/here-comes-nim/ http://goran.krampe.se/2014/10/13/here-comes-nim/ https://www.btbytes.com/notebooks/nimrod.html https://www.btbytes.com/notebooks/nimrod.html http://picheta.me/articles/2013/10/about-nimrods-features.html http://picheta.me/articles/2013/10/about-nimrods-features.ht... (by Dominic Picheta but external to Nim website) http://steved-imaginaryreal.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/nimrod-return-of-pascal.html http://steved-imaginaryreal.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/nimrod-re... http://vocalbit.com/posts/exploring-type-classes-in-nimrod.html http://vocalbit.com/posts/exploring-type-classes-in-nimrod.h... http://blog.ldlework.com/a-cursory-look-at-meta-programming-in-nim/ http://blog.ldlework.com/a-cursory-look-at-meta-programming-... http://joshfilstrup.com/posts/2014-10-27-2014-monads-in-nim.html http://joshfilstrup.com/posts/2014-10-27-2014-monads-in-nim.... http://ziotom78.blogspot.de/2014/01/experiments-with-nimrod.html http://ziotom78.blogspot.de/2014/01/experiments-with-nimrod.... http://progopedia.com/language/nimrod/ http://progopedia.com/language/nimrod/ https://geetduggal.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/consider-nimrod/ https://geetduggal.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/consider-nimrod/ http://www.drdobbs.com/open-source/nimrod-a-new-systems-programming-languag/240165321 http://www.drdobbs.com/open-source/nimrod-a-new-systems-prog... (by Andreas Rumpf - but definitely an indicator of notability) http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4749 http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4749 http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2013/Oct-2013-10-05.what-i-like-about-the-nimrod-programming-language.html http://ivoras.net/blog/tree/2013/Oct-2013-10-05.what-i-like-... http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nimrod http://www.infoq.com/presentations/nimrod (by Andreas Rumpf, but a sign of notability) http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Nimrod http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/11/swift-string-interpolation-with-nimrod-macros.html http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/11/swift-string-interp... http://togototo.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/benchmarks-round-two-parallel-go-rust-d-scala-and-nimrod/ http://togototo.wordpress.com/2013/08/23/benchmarks-round-tw... http://felsin9.de/nnis/nimrod/nimrod-gpn14.pdf http://felsin9.de/nnis/nimrod/nimrod-gpn14.pdf http://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/nim/ http://learnxinyminutes.com/docs/nim/ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/nim?sort=votes&pagesize=50 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/nim?sort=votes&pag... http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/03/nimrod-for-cross-platform-software.html http://gradha.github.io/articles/2014/03/nimrod-for-cross-pl... https://impythonist.wordpress.com/tag/nimrod/ https://impythonist.wordpress.com/tag/nimrod/ https://github.com/trending?l=nimrod https://github.com/trending?l=nimrod http://maniagnosis.crsr.net/2013/12/letterpress-cheating-in-nimrod.html http://maniagnosis.crsr.net/2013/12/letterpress-cheating-in-... That doesn't mean that the best resources aren't on the Nimrod website itself. But penalising a language for having excellent primary resources would be a bit crazy in my opinion.