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We have federated comments: pump.io or its precursor GNU Social, née status.net. Isn't it just a SMOP to tie together these piratebays together with one of thes

by jordigh 12y ago

We have federated comments: pump.io or its precursor GNU Social, née status.net. Isn't it just a SMOP to tie together these piratebays together with one of these? Yeah, this is a WIP of how Mediagoblin is using pump.io to federate comments: http://mediagoblin.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html#part-5-pump-api http://mediagoblin.readthedocs.org/en/latest/index.html#part...

detaro 12y ago
Is there a resource describing the state of current usage of pump.io etc? On the one hand, it seems to be used on several sites and some projects are working on it, on the other hand a lot of it is still in the works and most links that are not "create your account" pages seem to be for dead sites: I clicked around the wiki for publicly visible aggregators etc. I found one that showed posts from August after loading for a few minutes, the others all led to non-responding servers. (Basically: I'm interested in the general topic, but I can't get a sense if it is actually going anywhere)
- jordigh 12y ago
  It looks like they're working on pump.io, and it already does some interesting things. I still have my old identi.ca account which now runs on pump.io, although you can't get new accounts there. However, it's got very little documentation, and seem to still be a large case of UTSL. There's some stuff in its wiki, but not much more. https://github.com/e14n/pump.io/wiki/User-Guide https://github.com/e14n/pump.io/wiki/User-Guide
hendersoon 12y ago
Cool! Once you have federated comments why wouldn't you just distribute a popularity index and torrent magnet links via the same mechanism? Once you get all that stuff functional you end up with a truly decentralized platform and there's no reason for anyone to "host" their own cordoned-off copy in the first place. It actually /solves/ the problem.
- synchronise 12y ago
  Exactly, federated Pirate Bay solves many problems.
- Singletoned 12y ago
  This sounds almost exactly like eDonkey, which is what we used before BitTorrent. eDonkey used to be much better for rare items, though BitTorrent worked better for popular items. eDonkey used to let you start searches that would run for days, asking neighbour nodes to ask other neighbour nodes, etc. I miss it and I think there's a lot that can be learned from it.

by jordigh 12y ago

detaro 12y ago

Is there a resource describing the state of current usage of pump.io etc? On the one hand, it seems to be used on several sites and some projects are working on it, on the other hand a lot of it is still in the works and most links that are not "create your account" pages seem to be for dead sites: I clicked around the wiki for publicly visible aggregators etc. I found one that showed posts from August after loading for a few minutes, the others all led to non-responding servers. (Basically: I'm interested in the general topic, but I can't get a sense if it is actually going anywhere)

jordigh 12y ago
It looks like they're working on pump.io, and it already does some interesting things. I still have my old identi.ca account which now runs on pump.io, although you can't get new accounts there. However, it's got very little documentation, and seem to still be a large case of UTSL. There's some stuff in its wiki, but not much more. https://github.com/e14n/pump.io/wiki/User-Guide https://github.com/e14n/pump.io/wiki/User-Guide

hendersoon 12y ago

Cool! Once you have federated comments why wouldn't you just distribute a popularity index and torrent magnet links via the same mechanism? Once you get all that stuff functional you end up with a truly decentralized platform and there's no reason for anyone to "host" their own cordoned-off copy in the first place. It actually /solves/ the problem.

synchronise 12y ago
Exactly, federated Pirate Bay solves many problems.
Singletoned 12y ago
This sounds almost exactly like eDonkey, which is what we used before BitTorrent. eDonkey used to be much better for rare items, though BitTorrent worked better for popular items. eDonkey used to let you start searches that would run for days, asking neighbour nodes to ask other neighbour nodes, etc. I miss it and I think there's a lot that can be learned from it.