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Judging from the first 5 minutes, this Wired article by the same author contains pretty much the same content in textual form - http://www.wired.com/2014/12/gov

Judging from the first 5 minutes, this Wired article by the same author contains pretty much the same content in textual form - http://www.wired.com/2014/12/government-computer-security http://www.wired.com/2014/12/government-computer-security

hnmcs 12y ago
Thanks for the heads-up. It is a good way to get more, relevant information quickly. But given that the link is an hour-and-a-half long, and that article is quite brief, it would be more accurate to say that he's filling in some of the content of his presentation with some-of-up-to-all-of his article. (But the link must have a lot more than what's in the article.) I may listen to all of the presentation in the near future, on the chance that he will have something fresher and newer to say than things he's already said about his "war on general-purpose computers" thesis. - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+coming+war+on+general+computation https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+coming+war+... - http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html I appreciate him spreading such messages.
- JBiserkov 12y ago
  Now that I have listened to the whole video I still think the article is a great tl;dr; it includes a non-trivial Q & A session. The thing that stood out for me is a statement my Lessig that society is governed by Code, Laws, Norms and Markets.
nunyabuizness 12y ago
Thanks for the link. Do you know what he means when he says the "World Wide Web Consortium continues to infect the core standards of the web itself to allow remote control over your computer against your wishes?"
- rst 12y ago
  He's referring to their standard for embedding hooks for DRM into web pages, the so-called "Encrypted Media Extensions": https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/
  - nunyabuizness 12y ago
    I don't understand, doesn't this only apply to DRM content? How does this enable remote control of your browser?
    - eps 12y ago
      DRM ensures that browser doesn't always behave the way you want it to behave. You no longer have full control over it, you give a part of it away to 3rd party.
    - pixl97 12y ago
      No, it's about control of your browser. In standard HTML a server sends you some text bits and data streams and your browser chooses what it wants to do with them. Save them, display them on the screen, ignore them, etc. With DRM the browser has to be specifically engineered to do not what you want it to do, but what the person sending the data wants it to do. This is almost always done inside of some kind of 'black box of digital magic', be it software or hardware. If you had control or insight of the black box it is likely you could subvert control of the encrypted media. Now I won't say that it directly enables control over your browser any more so than Flash does (Only 76 CVE's in 2014), but every black box is a point of attack for hackers.
      - nunyabuizness 12y ago
        Ahh gotcha. Thanks.
- jacquesm 12y ago
  https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ edit: RST you're wicked fast, you beat me by all of 3 ms there or so :) Have an upvote!
SideburnsOfDoom 12y ago
Cory Doctorow has been making and refining these points for a while now. If you have read his essays or seen him speak you may have heard some of those paragraphs already. You can even see bits of it in his 2004 talk: http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt But it's an important topic and he's not wrong.

hnmcs 12y ago

Thanks for the heads-up. It is a good way to get more, relevant information quickly. But given that the link is an hour-and-a-half long, and that article is quite brief, it would be more accurate to say that he's filling in some of the content of his presentation with some-of-up-to-all-of his article. (But the link must have a lot more than what's in the article.) I may listen to all of the presentation in the near future, on the chance that he will have something fresher and newer to say than things he's already said about his "war on general-purpose computers" thesis. - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+coming+war+on+general+computation https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=the+coming+war+... - http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html I appreciate him spreading such messages.

JBiserkov 12y ago
Now that I have listened to the whole video I still think the article is a great tl;dr; it includes a non-trivial Q & A session. The thing that stood out for me is a statement my Lessig that society is governed by Code, Laws, Norms and Markets.

nunyabuizness 12y ago

Thanks for the link. Do you know what he means when he says the "World Wide Web Consortium continues to infect the core standards of the web itself to allow remote control over your computer against your wishes?"

rst 12y ago
He's referring to their standard for embedding hooks for DRM into web pages, the so-called "Encrypted Media Extensions": https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/
- nunyabuizness 12y ago
  I don't understand, doesn't this only apply to DRM content? How does this enable remote control of your browser?
  - eps 12y ago
    DRM ensures that browser doesn't always behave the way you want it to behave. You no longer have full control over it, you give a part of it away to 3rd party.
  - pixl97 12y ago
    No, it's about control of your browser. In standard HTML a server sends you some text bits and data streams and your browser chooses what it wants to do with them. Save them, display them on the screen, ignore them, etc. With DRM the browser has to be specifically engineered to do not what you want it to do, but what the person sending the data wants it to do. This is almost always done inside of some kind of 'black box of digital magic', be it software or hardware. If you had control or insight of the black box it is likely you could subvert control of the encrypted media. Now I won't say that it directly enables control over your browser any more so than Flash does (Only 76 CVE's in 2014), but every black box is a point of attack for hackers.
    - nunyabuizness 12y ago
      Ahh gotcha. Thanks.
jacquesm 12y ago
https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ edit: RST you're wicked fast, you beat me by all of 3 ms there or so :) Have an upvote!

SideburnsOfDoom 12y ago

Cory Doctorow has been making and refining these points for a while now. If you have read his essays or seen him speak you may have heard some of those paragraphs already. You can even see bits of it in his 2004 talk: http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt http://craphound.com/msftdrm.txt But it's an important topic and he's not wrong.