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all my bugs from android 2.3 (still heavily used in the us and out) up to android 4.2 were closed as obsolete. several are somewhat fixed on 5.0 (most by remov

by gcb0 12y ago

all my bugs from android 2.3 (still heavily used in the us and out) up to android 4.2 were closed as obsolete. several are somewhat fixed on 5.0 (most by removing the feature) but nothing about support even nexus devices from 2.5 years ago. 3 were security ones confirmed by a few comments. I've been getting obsolete emails on my low profile bugs since November all the way to Dec 25... Google just gave up. i think nobody there care about users after yahoo stole JBQueru. they now focus exclusively on profit and easy/fun work (i.e. full focus on new versions because maintaining old, stable software is the job of interns)

mfisher87 12y ago
I started seeing obsolete emails early this month for a bug I've been tracking: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8839 https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8839 It's extremely frustrating to have an issue thread full of agreeing constructive comments from users marked obsolete with no comment from the developers, when the issue is still annoying many users. It definitely gives the impression that Google gave up or does not care about users.
- thomasahle 12y ago
  If the maintainers of the official alarm app don't like this feature, can't you just use a custom app? Or is it something fundamental to the notification system?
- tdkl 12y ago
  This isn't a bug, it's a feature for indication that an user has an alarm set, so it minimizes the possibility of going off at unexpected time, the user wasn't aware of. Imagine if having mobile connection indicator wouldn't be shown because someone would say it wastes space, resulting in possible charges. Hiding things from users isn't exactly good UX.
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gst 12y ago
The last device sold by Google that now runs an Android release of 4.2 or earlier was (afaik) the Nexus S - which was released in 2010. I think it's reasonable to stop support for a particular device after something like 4 years. Yes, there are other 3rd party manufacturers that sold devices based on such outdated versions up until recently. But why should it be Google's task to provide updates for these devices? That sounds like something that the manufacturers are supposed to do.
- sangnoir 12y ago
  I have a Galaxy Nexus (2011) that's stuck on 4.2. I wouldn't mind receiving bug-fix releases.
  - chambo622 12y ago
    Small correction, the GNex was updated through 4.3.
    - ben1040 12y ago
      The poster may have had the Verizon model; it never got 4.3. They just abandoned it at 4.2.
      - digi_owl 12y ago
        And that may be one reason for Google going full steam with Project Ara. Limit the carrier meddling to a replaceable mobile radio module.
- iamcreasy 12y ago
  Not every part of the world changes at the same pace. There are places where a device running Android 4.2 are the best one on the market. That being said, its extremely frustrating to see this happening.
  - fpgeek 12y ago
Zigurd 12y ago
Why would Android 2.3 be heavily used, even in embedded systems, and if it is, why isn't it the OEMs' problem?
- pjmlp 12y ago
  Memory usage, just as possible reason.
hga 12y ago
Echoes of Jamie Zawinski "Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers" software development model? (http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html) Not quite the same thing, but Google and company sure look to believe they have better things to do....
- digi_owl 12y ago
  For me it seems that Google is trying to apply their web methodology (frequent small changes) to the mobile world, and running head first into the issue of not controlling the deployments (OEMs and carriers do). But thanks for the CADT link, seems to sum up the line between old school nix and the more recent something-X attitudes.
- sgnelson 12y ago
  In my experience, google has _never_ had good customer support/relations, unless you're currently paying google for the product.
  - gcb0 12y ago
    heh. you must have some inside contacts of you get good support being a paying customer even...
- swatow 12y ago
  Your post reminds me of how silly the way our society protects certain categories is. "Attention-Deficit Teenegers" could be viewed as offensive to some, as it uses a medical diagnosis as a pejorative. Perhaps the author could argue that they are referring to typical teenage behavior, and not ADD, but that would to me be a completely ridiculous and artificial distinction. So either we can't make fun of stereotypical teenage behavior (which is a slippery slope since about a lot of HN posts make fun of, or are directly hostile to, people in their early 20's) or have to admit that some medical categories are also things we can joke about.
  - hga 12y ago
    Your post is a bit silly in that you're talking about bourgeois truth, when revolutionary truth is what governs the part of "society" you're referring to. Important person makes bad ethnic or medical condition jokes? No problem, he's advancing the causes of the "revolution". Desire to trash an adversary, or just revel in your SJW power to damage or destroy at a whim? Take something innocent like this and make a felony jaywalking case of it.

by gcb0 12y ago

mfisher87 12y ago

I started seeing obsolete emails early this month for a bug I've been tracking: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8839 https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=8839 It's extremely frustrating to have an issue thread full of agreeing constructive comments from users marked obsolete with no comment from the developers, when the issue is still annoying many users. It definitely gives the impression that Google gave up or does not care about users.

thomasahle 12y ago
If the maintainers of the official alarm app don't like this feature, can't you just use a custom app? Or is it something fundamental to the notification system?
tdkl 12y ago
This isn't a bug, it's a feature for indication that an user has an alarm set, so it minimizes the possibility of going off at unexpected time, the user wasn't aware of. Imagine if having mobile connection indicator wouldn't be shown because someone would say it wastes space, resulting in possible charges. Hiding things from users isn't exactly good UX.

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gst 12y ago

The last device sold by Google that now runs an Android release of 4.2 or earlier was (afaik) the Nexus S - which was released in 2010. I think it's reasonable to stop support for a particular device after something like 4 years. Yes, there are other 3rd party manufacturers that sold devices based on such outdated versions up until recently. But why should it be Google's task to provide updates for these devices? That sounds like something that the manufacturers are supposed to do.

sangnoir 12y ago
I have a Galaxy Nexus (2011) that's stuck on 4.2. I wouldn't mind receiving bug-fix releases.
- chambo622 12y ago
  Small correction, the GNex was updated through 4.3.
  - ben1040 12y ago
    The poster may have had the Verizon model; it never got 4.3. They just abandoned it at 4.2.
    - digi_owl 12y ago
      And that may be one reason for Google going full steam with Project Ara. Limit the carrier meddling to a replaceable mobile radio module.
iamcreasy 12y ago
Not every part of the world changes at the same pace. There are places where a device running Android 4.2 are the best one on the market. That being said, its extremely frustrating to see this happening.
- fpgeek 12y ago

Zigurd 12y ago

Why would Android 2.3 be heavily used, even in embedded systems, and if it is, why isn't it the OEMs' problem?

pjmlp 12y ago
Memory usage, just as possible reason.

hga 12y ago

Echoes of Jamie Zawinski "Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers" software development model? (http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html) Not quite the same thing, but Google and company sure look to believe they have better things to do....

digi_owl 12y ago
For me it seems that Google is trying to apply their web methodology (frequent small changes) to the mobile world, and running head first into the issue of not controlling the deployments (OEMs and carriers do). But thanks for the CADT link, seems to sum up the line between old school nix and the more recent something-X attitudes.
sgnelson 12y ago
In my experience, google has _never_ had good customer support/relations, unless you're currently paying google for the product.
- gcb0 12y ago
  heh. you must have some inside contacts of you get good support being a paying customer even...
swatow 12y ago
Your post reminds me of how silly the way our society protects certain categories is. "Attention-Deficit Teenegers" could be viewed as offensive to some, as it uses a medical diagnosis as a pejorative. Perhaps the author could argue that they are referring to typical teenage behavior, and not ADD, but that would to me be a completely ridiculous and artificial distinction. So either we can't make fun of stereotypical teenage behavior (which is a slippery slope since about a lot of HN posts make fun of, or are directly hostile to, people in their early 20's) or have to admit that some medical categories are also things we can joke about.
- hga 12y ago
  Your post is a bit silly in that you're talking about bourgeois truth, when revolutionary truth is what governs the part of "society" you're referring to. Important person makes bad ethnic or medical condition jokes? No problem, he's advancing the causes of the "revolution". Desire to trash an adversary, or just revel in your SJW power to damage or destroy at a whim? Take something innocent like this and make a felony jaywalking case of it.