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> learn how to respect the native operating system UI guidelines Your comment is almost worthwhile just for the irony in this. Tabbed browsing basically hijac

> learn how to respect the native operating system UI guidelines Your comment is almost worthwhile just for the irony in this. Tabbed browsing basically hijacks window management away from the OS. Tabs are always implemented customly in-app (UI break) - and break the UX of window finding, switching, etc. (doubly annoying in a tiling WM, btw). That's all browsers. > Personally, I hope Mozilla goes away and some other group comes along to fill the void [...] > No, I much prefer that Mozilla just go away and die. Yeah, they're just squatting on that cyberspace and not letting other people through. Plus, FF is bundled/pre-installed everywhere nowadays; sickening! Your hatred is well placed.</s>

WorldWideWayne 12y ago
Tabs are fine and I didn't even mention them. MDI (multiple document interface) have been around forever and no...they do not take window management away from the OS because tabs are not windows until you want them to be, at which point the OS takes over. Mozilla's problem has more to do with the fact that by using non-standard chrome around their HTML engine, they cause many little breakages like improper keyboard acceleration. > Yeah, they're just squatting on that cyberspace and not letting other people through. Plus, FF is bundled/pre-installed everywhere nowadays...blah. It's really easy to make a point when you create an really flammable straw-man to represent the other side isn't it? In any case, it's certainly a better to just make up reasons why you could possibly disagree than trying to understand the actual point of view.
- wander_homer 12y ago
  So what's exactly your point? How does Mozilla interfere with your life and worsen it, so that wishing them to "die" would be justified? Why don't you just ignore them? Why do you want thousands of people to lose their job and why do you want to take away an open source software that's liked by millions of users?
  - WorldWideWayne 12y ago
    So, it's OK when thousands of people here say that they wish Microsoft would go away but I can't say that about Mozilla? Makes sense.
tracker1 12y ago
Funny, as an early windows user, I had gotten very used to alt-tab for inter-app switching and ctrl-tab for in-app tab/subscreen switching... which works for browser tabs for me... add in shift to reverse the direction.

WorldWideWayne 12y ago

Tabs are fine and I didn't even mention them. MDI (multiple document interface) have been around forever and no...they do not take window management away from the OS because tabs are not windows until you want them to be, at which point the OS takes over. Mozilla's problem has more to do with the fact that by using non-standard chrome around their HTML engine, they cause many little breakages like improper keyboard acceleration. > Yeah, they're just squatting on that cyberspace and not letting other people through. Plus, FF is bundled/pre-installed everywhere nowadays...blah. It's really easy to make a point when you create an really flammable straw-man to represent the other side isn't it? In any case, it's certainly a better to just make up reasons why you could possibly disagree than trying to understand the actual point of view.

wander_homer 12y ago
So what's exactly your point? How does Mozilla interfere with your life and worsen it, so that wishing them to "die" would be justified? Why don't you just ignore them? Why do you want thousands of people to lose their job and why do you want to take away an open source software that's liked by millions of users?
- WorldWideWayne 12y ago
  So, it's OK when thousands of people here say that they wish Microsoft would go away but I can't say that about Mozilla? Makes sense.

tracker1 12y ago

Funny, as an early windows user, I had gotten very used to alt-tab for inter-app switching and ctrl-tab for in-app tab/subscreen switching... which works for browser tabs for me... add in shift to reverse the direction.