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What do you get out of snarking towards things that really aren't worth snarking towards? There is no live search as valuable as Twitter's. Google doesn't do li

by unalone 17y ago

What do you get out of snarking towards things that really aren't worth snarking towards? There is no live search as valuable as Twitter's. Google doesn't do live search. Stop making up shit that the article said and then making fun of it, especially when so many TechCrunch articles are saying stupid shit.

axod 17y ago
You're right of course. I should do some work :/ I just get bored with the endless "Twitter is changing the world" output from Techcrunch that's all. And even if it were true, I don't think mob rule is something to be encouraged.
- unalone 17y ago
  Haha, fair enough.
req2 17y ago
Though you say google doesn't do live search, it took less than 18 minutes for it to get this post. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=sm6&q=%22techcrunch+articles+are+saying+stupid+shit%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi= http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&...
- unalone 17y ago
  It indexes quickly, but that's not live search. I can't pick a name and see what people around the world are saying about it. Google's just never designed anything to do that. Twitter has. So while the Internet's existed for a while, this live feedback has not.
  - axod 17y ago
    Difference is, twitter is often far less useful, since it doesn't have any notion of trustworthiness (yet). No PageRank. (Although afaik they're working on something like that). Also automated tweets are more of a problem than with Google. (PageRank also does well to get rid of the automated spam) The trending tags on twitter just mean lots of people re-tweeted something. It's the equivalent of emails that say you should forward it to 100 friends to get good luck. In this case it was "You should be outraged by this, re-tweet it!". But the effect is the same. Or it could just be twitter bots doing the retweeting.
    - kierank 17y ago
      The trending tags on twitter just mean lots of people re-tweeted something. It's the equivalent of emails that say you should forward it to 100 friends to get good luck. In this case it was "You should be outraged by this, re-tweet it!". But the effect is the same. That's a very good comparison in fact.
      - diego 17y ago
        Not necessarily. There is a lot of talk about Trafigura that's not just retweets. Check out our charts: http://trendistic.com/trafigura/carter-ruck/_24-hours http://trendistic.com/trafigura/carter-ruck/_24-hours
  - req2 17y ago
    So what's the problem with the link that shows up in the google search? itpints is giving me twitter, boston.com, and the guardian, among others. The feature you seem to like is the ability and lack of self-consciousness for people to say 'something' that Twitter allows, rather than the live search it has. I think if mibbit searched conversations, that would do the same thing and have the possibility to be more valuable.
- rizzn 17y ago
  18 minutes isn't live. It isn't real-time. Live and realtime is instant, as in less than a second or two and at most a minute (in certain contexts). Friendfeed, for instance, is a live search engine. Update your GChat status or share something on Google Reader. The time to update and be indexed by the main search engine on Friendfeed is seconds.

by unalone 17y ago

axod 17y ago

You're right of course. I should do some work :/ I just get bored with the endless "Twitter is changing the world" output from Techcrunch that's all. And even if it were true, I don't think mob rule is something to be encouraged.

unalone 17y ago
Haha, fair enough.

req2 17y ago

Though you say google doesn't do live search, it took less than 18 minutes for it to get this post. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=sm6&q=%22techcrunch+articles+are+saying+stupid+shit%22&aq=f&oq=&aqi= http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&...

unalone 17y ago
It indexes quickly, but that's not live search. I can't pick a name and see what people around the world are saying about it. Google's just never designed anything to do that. Twitter has. So while the Internet's existed for a while, this live feedback has not.
- axod 17y ago
  Difference is, twitter is often far less useful, since it doesn't have any notion of trustworthiness (yet). No PageRank. (Although afaik they're working on something like that). Also automated tweets are more of a problem than with Google. (PageRank also does well to get rid of the automated spam) The trending tags on twitter just mean lots of people re-tweeted something. It's the equivalent of emails that say you should forward it to 100 friends to get good luck. In this case it was "You should be outraged by this, re-tweet it!". But the effect is the same. Or it could just be twitter bots doing the retweeting.
  - kierank 17y ago
    The trending tags on twitter just mean lots of people re-tweeted something. It's the equivalent of emails that say you should forward it to 100 friends to get good luck. In this case it was "You should be outraged by this, re-tweet it!". But the effect is the same. That's a very good comparison in fact.
    - diego 17y ago
      Not necessarily. There is a lot of talk about Trafigura that's not just retweets. Check out our charts: http://trendistic.com/trafigura/carter-ruck/_24-hours http://trendistic.com/trafigura/carter-ruck/_24-hours
- req2 17y ago
  So what's the problem with the link that shows up in the google search? itpints is giving me twitter, boston.com, and the guardian, among others. The feature you seem to like is the ability and lack of self-consciousness for people to say 'something' that Twitter allows, rather than the live search it has. I think if mibbit searched conversations, that would do the same thing and have the possibility to be more valuable.
rizzn 17y ago
18 minutes isn't live. It isn't real-time. Live and realtime is instant, as in less than a second or two and at most a minute (in certain contexts). Friendfeed, for instance, is a live search engine. Update your GChat status or share something on Google Reader. The time to update and be indexed by the main search engine on Friendfeed is seconds.