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Could the people who voted down the above comment please explain why. I too understand Marxism as described above. I might amend it slightly from "people who
by disputin 12y ago
Could the people who voted down the above comment please explain why. I too understand Marxism as described above. I might amend it slightly from "people who berate it as an ideology are correct" to "people who berate it as an ideology would be correct if it were one", but otherwise what's the issue?
- steveklabnik 12y agoDon't expect the majority of Hacker News posters to understand anything regarding Marxism.
- bunderbunder 12y agoI didn't downvote (and I wish they'd just remove that silly feature from this site), but if I had to guess it would come down to a few things: 1. Ideology is not a dirty word. It's just a noun that describes any large-scale philosophy that focuses on political or economic issues. 2. Referring back to that definition, Marxism is very much an ideology. Claiming that it isn't is just playing word games. 3. All that aside, focusing in on quibbling over a word like that, to the exclusion of addressing any of the actual content of the statement that was being responded to, doesn't do much to add value to the conversation. Given the current context I don't think it would be unfair to suggest that it amounts to trying to meet a response to a courtier's reply with yet another courtier's reply.
- throwawayaway 12y agoto me, ideology and marxism are loaded terms. i think the fact that you refer to marxism as a base class and marxist leninism as an instantiation mean that we fundamentally agree on the nature of the distinction between the two. i think the nub of our disagreement is whether ideology is a loaded term, and whether marxism meets our personal definition of that word.