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Have you tried to change jobs that appreciate your skills more? Making yourself more valuable is not the only thing required in order to get paid more.

collyw 12y ago
Yes, but I seem to be near the top of the pay scale in Spain, and it still isn't lots.
- dennisgorelik 12y ago
  You may consider moving to the US or starting your own business.
  - Chronic30 12y ago
    If you are smart and capable, the US is THE best place to be. If you aren't (and enjoy government financial support) the US is not the best place. This is why Musk, Thiel, et al. moved to the US.
    - pcurve 12y ago
      "If you are smart and capable, the US is THE best place to be." I think this is generally true if you are looking for a place that can best leverage your skill sets for maximum financial rewards, and you are willing sacrifice some quality of life in doing so. "If you aren't (and enjoy government financial support) the US is not the best place." I suppose this is the part that got you downvoted because it came across snarky. But it's also not entirely true. You can still be very average or somewhat talented in the U.S. and still hold much better paying jobs in the U.S. than you would anywhere else in the world, if you pick the right sector.
  - collyw 12y ago
    I like the equality, free healthcare, and decent holidays that Europe offers amongst other things. I am considering starting my own business.
    - snird 12y ago
      There is no "free". someone is paying for this, and this someone is you through taxes, but most of it is the companies taxes in Spain. This makes small businesses lives in Spain hard, and make big corporates think twice before getting real big centers in Spain. This lack of competition is the reason you need to consider moving to US to have a good chance of a better life.
      - disusered 12y ago
        Only works if you ignore other European nations that have both the benefits and better jobs.
      - collyw 12y ago
        More money yes, better life is debatable. I moved from the UK to here, where it is generally better paid (not by a huge amount outside of London), but I feel I have a better quality of life in Spain.
      - collyw 12y ago
        More money yes, better life is debatable. I moved from the UK to here, where it is generally better paid (not by a huge amount outside of London), but I feel I have a better quality of life in Spain.

collyw 12y ago

Yes, but I seem to be near the top of the pay scale in Spain, and it still isn't lots.

dennisgorelik 12y ago
You may consider moving to the US or starting your own business.
- Chronic30 12y ago
  If you are smart and capable, the US is THE best place to be. If you aren't (and enjoy government financial support) the US is not the best place. This is why Musk, Thiel, et al. moved to the US.
  - pcurve 12y ago
    "If you are smart and capable, the US is THE best place to be." I think this is generally true if you are looking for a place that can best leverage your skill sets for maximum financial rewards, and you are willing sacrifice some quality of life in doing so. "If you aren't (and enjoy government financial support) the US is not the best place." I suppose this is the part that got you downvoted because it came across snarky. But it's also not entirely true. You can still be very average or somewhat talented in the U.S. and still hold much better paying jobs in the U.S. than you would anywhere else in the world, if you pick the right sector.
- collyw 12y ago
  I like the equality, free healthcare, and decent holidays that Europe offers amongst other things. I am considering starting my own business.
  - snird 12y ago
    There is no "free". someone is paying for this, and this someone is you through taxes, but most of it is the companies taxes in Spain. This makes small businesses lives in Spain hard, and make big corporates think twice before getting real big centers in Spain. This lack of competition is the reason you need to consider moving to US to have a good chance of a better life.
    - disusered 12y ago
      Only works if you ignore other European nations that have both the benefits and better jobs.
    - collyw 12y ago
      More money yes, better life is debatable. I moved from the UK to here, where it is generally better paid (not by a huge amount outside of London), but I feel I have a better quality of life in Spain.
    - collyw 12y ago
      More money yes, better life is debatable. I moved from the UK to here, where it is generally better paid (not by a huge amount outside of London), but I feel I have a better quality of life in Spain.