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For the ones who don't have it available in their country (like me) are left with no other option :(

k-mcgrady 12y ago
>> "For the ones who don't have it available in their country (like me) are left with no other option :(" Come on. Your option is to wait. From the site: "we do hope to see the release of The Interview across the globe"
- seanp2k2 12y ago
  That's a pretty bad option, and reinforces the notion that non-US countries are second-class citizens when it comes to content, which is a big part of why piracy is popular in other countries.
- nitrogen 12y ago
  Nobody wants to be treated as second class just because of where they were born. If history had happened the other way around, with the Internet first and Hollywood just now trying to introduce region-locked distribution, they would be decried as hideously insensitive, possibly racist. I don't blame anyone for wanting the same access at the same time we get it in region 1.
  - waterlesscloud 12y ago
    Sony Pictures Entertainment probably no longer has sole control over distribution elsewhere in the world. This close to the original planned release date, they likely have deals in place for nearly every other region, and thus partners to work with to arrange for release. In fact, it's entirely possible that those deals were in place before filming even began, and some money may have changed hands at that time, helping to finance the film. In short, there's almost certainly a partner of Sony in other countries that Sony has obligations to. Sony can't just alter those deals at will like it can alter its own plans in North America.
    - smtddr 12y ago
      Too bad for them... actually I've debated this type of thing with you before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276226
      - waterlesscloud 12y ago
        Where you said, "I'm just going to pirate it, end of story." Your position is pretty easily summed up then.
        nitrogen 12y ago
        In a digital world, those distribution partnerships need to move a lot faster or a lot of people will give the same answer.
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- digibo 12y ago
  Besides the second-class feeling that others mention, those hopes of release in other countries rarely become reality.
- themartorana 12y ago
  Eh. It takes more effort to regionally lock something on the Internet than not. Sony makes this sound like they'll go to every effort eventually to release this movie across the globe - doing that would require so much less effort than they're currently expending. When you say "wait" you're asking people to assume Sony will get around to considering them equal members of the Internet society. Or they can just assert that power themselves. As much as I can't wait to see the movie (because I'm a fan of absurdist comedy) I'm tired of this conversation. Release it or don't, everyone who wants to see it will. Release it globally or don't, but quit acting like it takes some act of heroism to release a movie outside the U.S.
  - k-mcgrady 12y ago
    I agree with everything you say - but it takes nothing away from my original point. The OP stated that he had 'no choice' but to pirate the movie. He does have a choice. He can wait for them to make it available to him - the cinema release was originally US only anyway. Or his other option is just to not watch it. I'm personally tired of the argument 'I had no option to pirate it'. It's rubbish. It's simply somebody's way of reliving themselves of any guilt or feeling of wrong doing from pirating. Pirate if I you want, just don't make bullshit excuses for it.
    - themartorana 12y ago
      It's true, he has a choice. That said, I see pirating in this context as civil disobedience. It's not a new concept, and is used all the time to convey that the status quo is unacceptable to society at large. There is the "choice" to accept things as they are, whether or not you believe them to be good and proper. Or you can break the law on purpose, with purpose, with intent to disobey laws and rules that you see as counter to the greater good. Remember, this is copyright law we're talking about. Pirating is not thievery, and I personally see pirating in places where content is unavailable to be in the same wheel house as pirating as a voice against the absurdity of insanely extended copyright laws. For instance, see The Grey Album.
      - 12y ago

>> "For the ones who don't have it available in their country (like me) are left with no other option :(" Come on. Your option is to wait. From the site: "we do hope to see the release of The Interview across the globe"

seanp2k2 12y ago
That's a pretty bad option, and reinforces the notion that non-US countries are second-class citizens when it comes to content, which is a big part of why piracy is popular in other countries.
nitrogen 12y ago
Nobody wants to be treated as second class just because of where they were born. If history had happened the other way around, with the Internet first and Hollywood just now trying to introduce region-locked distribution, they would be decried as hideously insensitive, possibly racist. I don't blame anyone for wanting the same access at the same time we get it in region 1.
- waterlesscloud 12y ago
  Sony Pictures Entertainment probably no longer has sole control over distribution elsewhere in the world. This close to the original planned release date, they likely have deals in place for nearly every other region, and thus partners to work with to arrange for release. In fact, it's entirely possible that those deals were in place before filming even began, and some money may have changed hands at that time, helping to finance the film. In short, there's almost certainly a partner of Sony in other countries that Sony has obligations to. Sony can't just alter those deals at will like it can alter its own plans in North America.
  - smtddr 12y ago
    Too bad for them... actually I've debated this type of thing with you before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5276226
    - waterlesscloud 12y ago
      Where you said, "I'm just going to pirate it, end of story." Your position is pretty easily summed up then.
      - nitrogen 12y ago
        In a digital world, those distribution partnerships need to move a lot faster or a lot of people will give the same answer.
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digibo 12y ago
Besides the second-class feeling that others mention, those hopes of release in other countries rarely become reality.
themartorana 12y ago
Eh. It takes more effort to regionally lock something on the Internet than not. Sony makes this sound like they'll go to every effort eventually to release this movie across the globe - doing that would require so much less effort than they're currently expending. When you say "wait" you're asking people to assume Sony will get around to considering them equal members of the Internet society. Or they can just assert that power themselves. As much as I can't wait to see the movie (because I'm a fan of absurdist comedy) I'm tired of this conversation. Release it or don't, everyone who wants to see it will. Release it globally or don't, but quit acting like it takes some act of heroism to release a movie outside the U.S.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  I agree with everything you say - but it takes nothing away from my original point. The OP stated that he had 'no choice' but to pirate the movie. He does have a choice. He can wait for them to make it available to him - the cinema release was originally US only anyway. Or his other option is just to not watch it. I'm personally tired of the argument 'I had no option to pirate it'. It's rubbish. It's simply somebody's way of reliving themselves of any guilt or feeling of wrong doing from pirating. Pirate if I you want, just don't make bullshit excuses for it.
  - themartorana 12y ago
    It's true, he has a choice. That said, I see pirating in this context as civil disobedience. It's not a new concept, and is used all the time to convey that the status quo is unacceptable to society at large. There is the "choice" to accept things as they are, whether or not you believe them to be good and proper. Or you can break the law on purpose, with purpose, with intent to disobey laws and rules that you see as counter to the greater good. Remember, this is copyright law we're talking about. Pirating is not thievery, and I personally see pirating in places where content is unavailable to be in the same wheel house as pirating as a voice against the absurdity of insanely extended copyright laws. For instance, see The Grey Album.
    - 12y ago