I certainly sympathize, but I'm not going to use Angular or some similar pile of goop because people don't want to think about JS frameworks anymore. Something

I certainly sympathize, but I'm not going to use Angular or some similar pile of goop because people don't want to think about JS frameworks anymore. Something I've noticed: my coworkers who bitch and rant about this the most love Django. So I don't think the problem is the notion of framework as such. It may just be that things are changing really fast and people get stressed out trying to stay on top of it all.