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Are you suggesting that the bottom 90% of households are predominately headed by under-40 year-olds? According to payscale.com, among those with college degree
by rskar 12y ago
Are you suggesting that the bottom 90% of households are predominately headed by under-40 year-olds?
According to payscale.com, among those with college degrees or higher, pay for men stops growing about age 48; for women, about 39. (See http://www.payscale.com/gender-lifetime-earnings-gap http://www.payscale.com/gender-lifetime-earnings-gap )
In your defence, there is this: http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2012/02/03/blame-the-income-gap-on-demographics-not-capitalism http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/20... ; in which Joseph Mason, Moyse/LBA Chair of Banking at the Ourso School of Business at Louisiana State University and a senior fellow at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that the demographics of income and wealth inequality will go away with the Baby Boomers. However, that article doesn't go into or cite any real analysis.
A contrary opinion by Phillip Longman in 2008 (at http://newamerica.net/files/Longman-Remarks.pdf http://newamerica.net/files/Longman-Remarks.pdf) actually goes into more detail on baby boomers and money: Could it really be that a typical household headed by a person in their 50s has disposable income of over $85,000 dollars? ... [Sure] enough, [the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey] shows average household income numbers for that cohort in the range of $85,000. ... The medium income numbers were much, much lower. For example, in 2006, according the Census Bureau, households headed by a person 45-54 had an average income $85,812. But the medium income of such households was some $20,000 less. The difference between average and medium works out to about 25 percent. ... Income inequality, let alone wealth inequality, in this generation is extremely high. Its average income includes the earnings of Bill Gates and countless other baby boom billionaires, plus a very large new class of McMansion-owning minor millionaires. Because of very high income inequality within the baby boom generation, medium income statistics tell us a much more accurate story than do average income stats about how the “typical” baby boomer lives.
Age could easily explain the apparent "wealth inequality", but not so much in regards to "income inequality". Yet "income inequality" can easily be shown to be a factor towards "wealth inequality". According to Pew Research (see http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/17/wealth-gap-upper-middle-income/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/12/17/wealth-gap-u...): The wealth gap between America’s high income group and everyone else has reached record high levels since the economic recovery from the Great Recession of 2007-09, with a clear trajectory of increasing wealth for the upper-income families and no wealth growth for the middle- and lower-income families. In 2013, the median wealth of the nation’s upper-income families ($639,400) was nearly seven times the median wealth of middle-income families ($96,500) - the widest wealth gap seen in 30 years when the Federal Reserve began collecting these data.
My suggestion: Let's stop conflating the issues of "wealth inequality" and "income inequality". The real crux of the matter is in the "income inequality". There's been wage stagnation for decades despite productivity gains. In America anyway, the tax code is rigged against earned income in favor of unearned income. Overall, it is better to be "wealthy" than to be "gainfully employed".
- bostonpete 12y agoYou seem to know your stuff so I'm reluctant to challenge you on any of this but what is "medium income"? You use the term multiple times above so it doesn't seem like a typo...
- rskar 12y agoIt could be a typo or other mistake. To be clear, "medium income" was the phrase used by Philip Longman in the cited PDF. I also wonder if he actually meant "median income." I googled on "define medium income", and it seems P.L. isn't alone in using that term, but it's not clear to me if it's taken the same as median, or if it's a unique term all its own. In the book, "Children in America: National Indicator of Well-being", edited by Ryan H. Nobbins, in Appendix A (page 121), "medium income" is given a definition (see https://books.google.com/books?id=ALccZ2yFq9UC&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=define+medium+income&source=bl&ots=WKBXiHsEgU&sig=1NqUR_0MjpIJ1X_QuSRqHSClLSc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=xf6aVJucFMGigwTYnYCIDQ&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=define%20medium%20income&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=ALccZ2yFq9UC&pg=PA121&lpg=...), although I don't know if P.L. means it this way: Medium Income is between 200 and 399 percent of the poverty threshold (e.g. from $37620 thru $75239 for a family of 4 in 2003).
- jessaustin 12y agoAre you suggesting that the bottom 90% of households are predominately headed by under-40 year-olds? Where did that come from? Clearly, Hermel was instead suggesting that the inequality in any particular age range hasn't changed over time, and that older ranges have greater inequality than younger ranges. (This could come both from some older people being wealthier than they were when young, and from other older people being poorer than they were when young.) It is a well-known demographic fact that there are more old people now than there used to be, which fact coupled with Hermel's claims would be enough to explain increasing wealth inequality. I don't have the knowledge to agree or disagree with Hermel, but I oppose avoidable misunderstandings.
- Hermel 12y agoExactly, thanks!