Yeah that's my attitude too, Ember scared me away because of the kitchen sink approach and the fact it introduced lots of new abstractions that I hadn't seen pr

Yeah that's my attitude too, Ember scared me away because of the kitchen sink approach and the fact it introduced lots of new abstractions that I hadn't seen proven elsewhere, and that didn't really seem to me to be what I would be expecting from a Web framework. Something like React bothers me far less as it smaller, less imposing, and solves real problems I've seen with other frameworks (for example by pushing clear/consistent/simple communication paths).