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The decline started with Lion. Snow Leopard was the pinnacle of the OS. They were able to offset or mask some of this with SSD drives. But, it has become pretty

by mergy 12y ago

The decline started with Lion. Snow Leopard was the pinnacle of the OS. They were able to offset or mask some of this with SSD drives. But, it has become pretty sloppy for folks that really wanted to tune their systems for performance. Couple that with the questionable changes on the UI over the last couple major releases and I didn't see anything I wanted anymore.

jjoonathan 12y ago
Lion was also the OS where they started cutting out core functionality (e.g. the ACPI controller) from their open source releases.
yourad_io 12y ago
> Snow Leopard was the pinnacle of the OS. A thousand times this. I stuck it out with 10.6 for the longest time. Eventually, "people" stopped bothering to release for 10.6 (Java 7... :/) and Apple lost me as a customer. Which was a blessing in disguise - I'm very happy with Ubuntu + i3 and wouldn't go back even if they got their shit together.
seanalltogether 12y ago
Adium still lists 14% of their users on Snow Leopard. https://www.adium.im/sparkle/#osVersion https://www.adium.im/sparkle/#osVersion It's painful to support these days but I'm still trying keep my apps compatible with it.
- zacwest 12y ago
  Adium has had a huge decline in users, though, since then, so the percentage isn't as informative. For example, if you look back to a couple years ago, we had ~180k stats pings for the same week period[1] as we do now at ~20k[2]. I think what you're seeing/reporting here is that users who still use Adium are not entirely upgrading. That's probably true, but has more to do with Messages.app in newer versions supporting iMessage than anything else. (I was one of the Adium developers for years. I don't even use it anymore because of the prevalence of iMessage and the decline in general IM.) [1]: https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2012&week=01&graph=bar https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2012&week=01&graph=bar [2]: https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2014&week=51&graph=bar https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2014&week=51&graph=bar
  - seanalltogether 12y ago
    That's too bad Adium is in decline. I've always tried to not rely on Apples built in messsaging and hoped a lot of other users still felt the same.

by mergy 12y ago

jjoonathan 12y ago

Lion was also the OS where they started cutting out core functionality (e.g. the ACPI controller) from their open source releases.

yourad_io 12y ago

> Snow Leopard was the pinnacle of the OS. A thousand times this. I stuck it out with 10.6 for the longest time. Eventually, "people" stopped bothering to release for 10.6 (Java 7... :/) and Apple lost me as a customer. Which was a blessing in disguise - I'm very happy with Ubuntu + i3 and wouldn't go back even if they got their shit together.

seanalltogether 12y ago

Adium still lists 14% of their users on Snow Leopard. https://www.adium.im/sparkle/#osVersion https://www.adium.im/sparkle/#osVersion It's painful to support these days but I'm still trying keep my apps compatible with it.

zacwest 12y ago
Adium has had a huge decline in users, though, since then, so the percentage isn't as informative. For example, if you look back to a couple years ago, we had ~180k stats pings for the same week period[1] as we do now at ~20k[2]. I think what you're seeing/reporting here is that users who still use Adium are not entirely upgrading. That's probably true, but has more to do with Messages.app in newer versions supporting iMessage than anything else. (I was one of the Adium developers for years. I don't even use it anymore because of the prevalence of iMessage and the decline in general IM.) [1]: https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2012&week=01&graph=bar https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2012&week=01&graph=bar [2]: https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2014&week=51&graph=bar https://www.adium.im/sparkle/?year=2014&week=51&graph=bar
- seanalltogether 12y ago
  That's too bad Adium is in decline. I've always tried to not rely on Apples built in messsaging and hoped a lot of other users still felt the same.