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In some ways, browsers are as fragmented as ever. Everyone loves to forget IE, but the last I checked IE8 was #3 in sales in our shop. Throw in a little jQuery

In some ways, browsers are as fragmented as ever. Everyone loves to forget IE, but the last I checked IE8 was #3 in sales in our shop. Throw in a little jQuery and we never have to worry about a lot of things. Polyfills are nice, except that browsers are still experimenting, and plenty of people aren't mindful of that fact and it's not uncommon to visit sites that don't work properly on a browser other than Chrome. A sad state of affairs, but a reality nonetheless

jmnicolas 12y ago
> it's not uncommon to visit sites that don't work properly on a browser other than Chrome I think you're exaggerating : I use Firefox for everything and I wouldn't be able to name a website where I had to use Chrome instead.
- girvo 12y ago
  And I have a counter datapoint where that's exactly what my girlfriend has to do sometimes, because IE11 isn't supported correctly by some modern sites. However, both of our anecdotes mean diddly-squat in terms of working out whether the parent is exaggerating.
  - Turing_Machine 12y ago
    I wouldn't phrase it as as "not supported correctly" but rather "Microsoft has had 20 years to fix their broken code, and it's still broken". Seriously, dude. If you're not doing stuff on the extreme bleeding edge, the same code usually works fine on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera... everywhere but IE. If there are any changes needed, they're trivial. Only IE requires extensive effort to "support correctly". Microsoft is a $180 billion company with 100,000 employees. I'm just a guy. If they want their browser to be "supported correctly" they should make it work correctly.
    - girvo 12y ago
      No, I specifically meant "not supported correctly" -- as in, because of UA sniffing, you're given an old obsolete interface despite IE11 supporting the features that site needs.

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In some ways, browsers are as fragmented as ever. Everyone loves to forget IE, but the last I checked IE8 was #3 in sales in our shop. Throw in a little jQuery

by arenaninja 12y ago

jmnicolas 12y ago
> it's not uncommon to visit sites that don't work properly on a browser other than Chrome I think you're exaggerating : I use Firefox for everything and I wouldn't be able to name a website where I had to use Chrome instead.
- girvo 12y ago
  And I have a counter datapoint where that's exactly what my girlfriend has to do sometimes, because IE11 isn't supported correctly by some modern sites. However, both of our anecdotes mean diddly-squat in terms of working out whether the parent is exaggerating.
  - Turing_Machine 12y ago
    I wouldn't phrase it as as "not supported correctly" but rather "Microsoft has had 20 years to fix their broken code, and it's still broken". Seriously, dude. If you're not doing stuff on the extreme bleeding edge, the same code usually works fine on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera... everywhere but IE. If there are any changes needed, they're trivial. Only IE requires extensive effort to "support correctly". Microsoft is a $180 billion company with 100,000 employees. I'm just a guy. If they want their browser to be "supported correctly" they should make it work correctly.
    - girvo 12y ago
      No, I specifically meant "not supported correctly" -- as in, because of UA sniffing, you're given an old obsolete interface despite IE11 supporting the features that site needs.