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No pdf.js?

by mp3geek 12y ago

No pdf.js?

MegaDeKay 12y ago
"Following on the success of pdf.js, a high-fidelity PDF renderer written in pure HTML and JavaScript, the Shumway project..."
- pedalpete 12y ago
  but I thought Shumway was about converting flash to html, not pdf, or is it now pdf and flash?
  - ripdog 12y ago
    It is. pdf.js does pdf, shumway does flash. Read the linked page.
  - SwellJoe 12y ago
    Separate projects. But, pdf.js is integrated into Firefox and is past the research stage. I believe they're just sort of saying, "Hey, we made that other seemingly impossible idea work when we made pdf.js actually work pretty well, so you probably shouldn't laugh when we say we're implementing Flash in JS and HTML5."
  - dherman 12y ago
    (Director of Strategy for Mozilla Research here.) pdf.js was the brainchild of Andreas Gal, now our CTO but at the time a cofounder of Mozilla Research along with Brendan Eich and me. That project started briefly in Research but was shepherded to product pretty quickly. Shumway is a separate project but similar in spirit. It's not a converter per se, but rather an emulator including a full ActionScript Bytecode (ABC) JIT, implemented in pure JavaScript. Right now we are interested in getting Shumway to the point where it can be used in Firefox as an alternative to the native Flash plugin for certain kinds of web Flash content, to provide better security, stability, and performance. Over time as Shumway matures the ultimate goal would be to eliminate the need for the Flash plugin entirely, but we'll walk before we run. But Shumway is usable as a standalone project as well, and others have begun taking notice. For example, Prezi has invested in Shumway as a library for rendering vector graphics: https://medium.com/prezi-engineering/how-and-why-prezi-turned-to-javascript-56e0ca57d135 https://medium.com/prezi-engineering/how-and-why-prezi-turne...
- dfc 12y ago
  "...aims to implement an emulator for the Flash multimedia platform."
  - Mahn 12y ago
    The point is not that Shumway is directly connected with pdf.js, but rather that the wording in its descrition suggests pdf.js is no longer a research project.
dfc 12y ago
I think the take away is that pdf.js is no longer a mozilla research project. It has been included with Firefox since v19.
theandrewbailey 12y ago
It looks like that's a Mozilla Labs project, not a Mozilla Research project. https://mozillalabs.com/en-US/pdfjs/ https://mozillalabs.com/en-US/pdfjs/

No pdf.js?

by mp3geek 12y ago

No pdf.js?

"Following on the success of pdf.js, a high-fidelity PDF renderer written in pure HTML and JavaScript, the Shumway project..."

pedalpete 12y ago
but I thought Shumway was about converting flash to html, not pdf, or is it now pdf and flash?
- ripdog 12y ago
  It is. pdf.js does pdf, shumway does flash. Read the linked page.
- SwellJoe 12y ago
  Separate projects. But, pdf.js is integrated into Firefox and is past the research stage. I believe they're just sort of saying, "Hey, we made that other seemingly impossible idea work when we made pdf.js actually work pretty well, so you probably shouldn't laugh when we say we're implementing Flash in JS and HTML5."
- dherman 12y ago
  (Director of Strategy for Mozilla Research here.) pdf.js was the brainchild of Andreas Gal, now our CTO but at the time a cofounder of Mozilla Research along with Brendan Eich and me. That project started briefly in Research but was shepherded to product pretty quickly. Shumway is a separate project but similar in spirit. It's not a converter per se, but rather an emulator including a full ActionScript Bytecode (ABC) JIT, implemented in pure JavaScript. Right now we are interested in getting Shumway to the point where it can be used in Firefox as an alternative to the native Flash plugin for certain kinds of web Flash content, to provide better security, stability, and performance. Over time as Shumway matures the ultimate goal would be to eliminate the need for the Flash plugin entirely, but we'll walk before we run. But Shumway is usable as a standalone project as well, and others have begun taking notice. For example, Prezi has invested in Shumway as a library for rendering vector graphics: https://medium.com/prezi-engineering/how-and-why-prezi-turned-to-javascript-56e0ca57d135 https://medium.com/prezi-engineering/how-and-why-prezi-turne...
dfc 12y ago
"...aims to implement an emulator for the Flash multimedia platform."
- Mahn 12y ago
  The point is not that Shumway is directly connected with pdf.js, but rather that the wording in its descrition suggests pdf.js is no longer a research project.

dfc 12y ago

I think the take away is that pdf.js is no longer a mozilla research project. It has been included with Firefox since v19.

theandrewbailey 12y ago

It looks like that's a Mozilla Labs project, not a Mozilla Research project. https://mozillalabs.com/en-US/pdfjs/ https://mozillalabs.com/en-US/pdfjs/