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You would think logical people are here. If 80% of crimes is done by Blacks in a neighborhood isn't it more efficient to look for criminals in this group even i

You would think logical people are here. If 80% of crimes is done by Blacks in a neighborhood isn't it more efficient to look for criminals in this group even if it is just 15% minority? Why males don't complain about being targeted by the Police compared to women?

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- byEngineer 12y ago
  You mean this is why males don't complain about being targeted more often by the Police than females?
mikegioia 12y ago
I don't think it's so much the fact that predominantly black neighborhoods are looked at, as it is the manner with which they're targetted.
- byEngineer 12y ago
  Which is based on subjective feelings alone. I was treated by the byc cops really bad. I can easily imagine how much more worse I would feel if I were Black with all that PC propaganda fed into my head since birth
logn 12y ago
If you're focusing on policing a subset of people, that subset will be charged with a disproportionately high number of crimes.
- byEngineer 12y ago
  Charged isn't convicted. Somehow Blacks are 70% of prison population. So it looks like the cops are right. Unless we will buy now into a conspiracy theory that Blacks are convicted based solely on the skin color.
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    > Charged isn't convicted. > Somehow Blacks are 70% of prison population. Enter the plea bargain. Those are not necessarily inconsistent. They will throw down the book at you and say you face 199 years in prison unless you plead guilty. Have you already forgotten Aaron Swartz? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
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Retra 12y ago
That would be a good argument if you have a legal system based upon efficiency. But most legal systems are based upon _correctness_, so you cannot effectively make that kind of argument. I'm not saying it's a useless argument: I'm saying a justice system making decisions that are inconsistent with its goals and with societal expectations is going to be inefficient no matter how you slice it.
kubiiii 12y ago
If you want to go that way, you really should think of some compensation for being over targeted. It shouldnt be free for a society to over target an individual for being part of a minority.

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byEngineer 12y ago
You mean this is why males don't complain about being targeted more often by the Police than females?

mikegioia 12y ago

I don't think it's so much the fact that predominantly black neighborhoods are looked at, as it is the manner with which they're targetted.

byEngineer 12y ago
Which is based on subjective feelings alone. I was treated by the byc cops really bad. I can easily imagine how much more worse I would feel if I were Black with all that PC propaganda fed into my head since birth

logn 12y ago

If you're focusing on policing a subset of people, that subset will be charged with a disproportionately high number of crimes.

byEngineer 12y ago
Charged isn't convicted. Somehow Blacks are 70% of prison population. So it looks like the cops are right. Unless we will buy now into a conspiracy theory that Blacks are convicted based solely on the skin color.
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- thanksgiving 12y ago
  > Charged isn't convicted. > Somehow Blacks are 70% of prison population. Enter the plea bargain. Those are not necessarily inconsistent. They will throw down the book at you and say you face 199 years in prison unless you plead guilty. Have you already forgotten Aaron Swartz? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz
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Retra 12y ago

That would be a good argument if you have a legal system based upon efficiency. But most legal systems are based upon _correctness_, so you cannot effectively make that kind of argument. I'm not saying it's a useless argument: I'm saying a justice system making decisions that are inconsistent with its goals and with societal expectations is going to be inefficient no matter how you slice it.

kubiiii 12y ago

If you want to go that way, you really should think of some compensation for being over targeted. It shouldnt be free for a society to over target an individual for being part of a minority.