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Certain aspects of male/female difference are definitely innate. For example, among young infants, females are more interested in faces and people, while males
by Pyxl101 12y ago
Certain aspects of male/female difference are definitely innate. For example, among young infants, females are more interested in faces and people, while males are more interested in mechanical objects. I believe a study showed this effect was present & statistically significant only a short time after birth (too soon to be influenced by culture).
There are well-known differences in brain structure, such as the portions of brain used for language. Women have an edge in verbal reasoning, while men in spatial.
Male IQ has more variability than female IQ, resulting in more men in both the top and bottom percentiles. This may explain why more men are executives, and why more men are homeless (that's just my suspicion). Studies have also found that male IQ is higher on average by (variously) 3-5 points. From my personal observations, men are more likely than women to focus intensively on one activity, to the exclusion of all others, like skateboarding, or surfing, or computer programming, or gaming.
Men weigh more than women, have more muscle mass, have 40-60% more upper body strength, and 25-30% lower body strength, though with training the gap narrows to 0-8% (so perhaps this difference is more cultural). Men outperform women in most athletic areas, though perhaps not in distance running. Women live years longer than men and have lower rates of mental illness.
Women and men earn equal pay when you control for the job worked, the hours worked, and the amount of experience. I believe a study showed that single male and female professionals with no dependents, equal time in the workforce, working equal hours, earned equal amounts. The pay gap arises because slightly fewer women work high-paying jobs, they work fewer hours per week / take more time off, and drop out of the workforce at higher rates (e.g. stay at home parent).
A good summary of research and sources are available in Wikipedia articles like "Sex differences in intelligence" and "Sex differences in psychology". Certainly do not take my word for any of this, and please correct me if I'm wrong.
Personally, I think we should make sure that every person is judged based on individual merit, and be encouraged and supported to pursue what they're interested in with no preconceptions. That's what equality means to me.
- ninavizz 12y agoWhere's your PhD? Flagging for abuse...
- rewqfdsa 12y agoChrist, it's "abuse" now to bring up inconvenient but real facts? If your tribe's thinking is that rigid and dogmatic, is it any wonder we can't seem to actually come to a consensus on gender politics?
- dang 12y ago> If your tribe's thinking is that rigid and dogmatic No personal attacks on Hacker News, please, even when someone else's thinking seems rigid or dogmatic to you.
- ninavizz 12y agoIt's abusive to troll any website posting radical or extreme POVs as "facts." HN is not a place I care to invest my time, and if any person here is sincere in believing that men are superior to women, imho they should be kicked off.
- Pyxl101 12y agoI've posted a collection of facts that are, to my memory, all supported by peer-reviewed scientific studies. Facts aren't radical, they're just wrong or right. I do not understand your allegations about them being extreme. These are not new results; they are for the most part accepted results in their respective fields. "Sex differences in neonatal social perception" (link below) is 14-year-old well regarded research. I assume you do not contest the truth that men weigh more, have more muscle mass, or have shorter life spans? Which point do you contest? Every point I mentioned has - unless my memory is failing me - similar scientific evidence behind it. If you are sincerely interested to learn more about this, then please point out which fact seems dubious and I will be glad to (if I think you are earnest and sincere) help point you to the original research. I have tried to provide you with this data: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8790525 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8790525 If you have a reason to believe the facts are wrong, then please explain, preferably with a justification and reference. I've done my best to present the facts as I know them - do what you will with the information. Let's stop here if you are not interested to discuss the evidence I've presented.