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It seems like it would be very fun to have a chat with Guy Consolmagno: “One incarnation seems absurd but not inconsistent with the data,” he said by phone fro

by _sword 12y ago

It seems like it would be very fun to have a chat with Guy Consolmagno: “One incarnation seems absurd but not inconsistent with the data,” he said by phone from Florida, where he was watching manatees. There is no data, I pointed out. “Exactly!” he responded, laughing.

hobs 12y ago
He seems like a very interesting person, but it always confuses me when someone so steeped in science chooses the unknown. When you say things like “That’s not the kind of god I’m happy with", I wonder why you would choose an organized religion with all the strings attached in terms of dogma?
- lukeholder 12y ago
  The way I think about it is, if God created the earth, and placed us all together - then why shouldn't we try to meet the measure of our creation together as a team?
  - JasonFruit 12y ago
    That's a statement I like the sound of, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by it. Care to elaborate?
    - lukeholder 12y ago
      Organised religion is seen as full of dogma and inefficiencies, but people organising themselves for the benefit of all within the organisation might be the primary reason we are all together sharing the this earthly experience - to progress together - to help each other. Spiritually as solely personal internal pursuit may conflict with the reality we are sharing a common earthly experience, born into families and tribes that we are emotionally/spiritually bonded to.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  > He seems like a very interesting person, but it always confuses me when someone so steeped in science chooses the unknown. I've known lots of people who are both religious and scientifically oriented, and none of them have seemed to view religion as "choosing the unknown", but more as not abandoning as irrelevant that about which understanding through empiricism is not viable. > When you say things like “That’s not the kind of god I’m happy with", I wonder why you would choose an organized religion with all the strings attached in terms of dogma? Er, when he says that, he says it about a particular science-fiction account, not about what a particular real world religion believes, so I don't see how those things even relate. Why would not liking the picture painted by a particular piece of science fiction put you off of organized religion in general, particularly an organized religion whose doctrines do not demand the account proposed in that piece of science fiction?

by _sword 12y ago

hobs 12y ago

He seems like a very interesting person, but it always confuses me when someone so steeped in science chooses the unknown. When you say things like “That’s not the kind of god I’m happy with", I wonder why you would choose an organized religion with all the strings attached in terms of dogma?

lukeholder 12y ago
The way I think about it is, if God created the earth, and placed us all together - then why shouldn't we try to meet the measure of our creation together as a team?
- JasonFruit 12y ago
  That's a statement I like the sound of, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by it. Care to elaborate?
  - lukeholder 12y ago
    Organised religion is seen as full of dogma and inefficiencies, but people organising themselves for the benefit of all within the organisation might be the primary reason we are all together sharing the this earthly experience - to progress together - to help each other. Spiritually as solely personal internal pursuit may conflict with the reality we are sharing a common earthly experience, born into families and tribes that we are emotionally/spiritually bonded to.
dragonwriter 12y ago
> He seems like a very interesting person, but it always confuses me when someone so steeped in science chooses the unknown. I've known lots of people who are both religious and scientifically oriented, and none of them have seemed to view religion as "choosing the unknown", but more as not abandoning as irrelevant that about which understanding through empiricism is not viable. > When you say things like “That’s not the kind of god I’m happy with", I wonder why you would choose an organized religion with all the strings attached in terms of dogma? Er, when he says that, he says it about a particular science-fiction account, not about what a particular real world religion believes, so I don't see how those things even relate. Why would not liking the picture painted by a particular piece of science fiction put you off of organized religion in general, particularly an organized religion whose doctrines do not demand the account proposed in that piece of science fiction?