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"And C++ isn't just for large, complicated programs; it's for small, complicated programs too." hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- I was thinking that, but h

by nocman 12y ago

"And C++ isn't just for large, complicated programs; it's for small, complicated programs too." hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- I was thinking that, but hadn't put it into those exact words yet. I was thinking something like "C++ is definitely for complicated programs" -- not that they necessarily need to be complicated, but that C++ often unnecessarily complicates them. I really wanted to like the STL a long time ago, but I gave up eventually. Happily my frustration with C++ led me to investigate other programming languages (not that it was the only one I had used), and I write precious little in it lately -- mostly just to modify code others have written in it.

yoha 12y ago
I want to explain why you are getting down-voted: Hacker News don't like onomatopoeias like “hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”. In general, a neutral tone is preferred and tongue-in-cheek is acceptable (like parent). This is an important difference with most subreddits (some, like /r/AskHistorian have a similar ambiance); it avoids ending up with long, heated and shallow conversations.
- nocman 12y ago
  I'm not exactly new here. I figured some might not like the "hahaha...", but I don't really care. That's exactly what I did when I read the parent comment. I didn't just leave it at the onomatopoeia -- I made a very reasonable comment afterwards.
pmelendez 12y ago
>"I was thinking something like "C++ is definitely for complicated programs" I am not sure which language are you comparing it to but there is definitely a subset of C++ that is easy to use, very readable and type safe. My only problem with C++ is somebody else code, because there is also a terrible subset of C++ where things can turn very hairy. But same can be said about C, and actually C sometimes encourage you to be "clever".
- nocman 12y ago
  Yes, and I am fully aware of reasonable subsets of C++. However, there are multiple other languages that I would rather program in -- although there are still places where I would chose to use C or C++. I was mostly disappointed that when I tried to use many of the features of C++ that were beyond an intermediate level, the real warts of the language made it not worth the hassle. I suspect some of that has improved in the latest version of the language spec (and some in the version prior), but I haven't seen anything so far that has excited me enough to get back into it much.

by nocman 12y ago

yoha 12y ago

I want to explain why you are getting down-voted: Hacker News don't like onomatopoeias like “hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”. In general, a neutral tone is preferred and tongue-in-cheek is acceptable (like parent). This is an important difference with most subreddits (some, like /r/AskHistorian have a similar ambiance); it avoids ending up with long, heated and shallow conversations.

nocman 12y ago
I'm not exactly new here. I figured some might not like the "hahaha...", but I don't really care. That's exactly what I did when I read the parent comment. I didn't just leave it at the onomatopoeia -- I made a very reasonable comment afterwards.

pmelendez 12y ago

>"I was thinking something like "C++ is definitely for complicated programs" I am not sure which language are you comparing it to but there is definitely a subset of C++ that is easy to use, very readable and type safe. My only problem with C++ is somebody else code, because there is also a terrible subset of C++ where things can turn very hairy. But same can be said about C, and actually C sometimes encourage you to be "clever".

nocman 12y ago
Yes, and I am fully aware of reasonable subsets of C++. However, there are multiple other languages that I would rather program in -- although there are still places where I would chose to use C or C++. I was mostly disappointed that when I tried to use many of the features of C++ that were beyond an intermediate level, the real warts of the language made it not worth the hassle. I suspect some of that has improved in the latest version of the language spec (and some in the version prior), but I haven't seen anything so far that has excited me enough to get back into it much.