> but those in power did it out of precaution to identify possible future acts. That simply doesn't matter. Torture is illegal in all circumstances, reprehensi

> but those in power did it out of precaution to identify possible future acts. That simply doesn't matter. Torture is illegal in all circumstances, reprehensible, and completely ineffective. There's no justification, period. The "collateral damage" of drone strikes, and all of our quasi-war military actions, concerns me greatly, but the fact that drones are involves is immaterial. We've been killing civilians and combatants outside of declared war and emergency situations for a long time now. Maybe that all needs to be looked at again with the result being possible indictments. If so it would go back before Obama and Bush, to at least every post-WWII president.