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I don't want to go to lyrics sites for lyrics. I have yet to find one that isn't awful, spammy, slow, popup and interstitial ridden. Maybe if there were some t

by ori_b 12y ago

I don't want to go to lyrics sites for lyrics. I have yet to find one that isn't awful, spammy, slow, popup and interstitial ridden. Maybe if there were some that weren't utter shit, I'd agree. But the thing is that before this, the only results I was getting were inferior search results.

andrewchambers 12y ago
Genius is pretty awesome.
- Shog9 12y ago
  Ironically, Genius tried to game search results and now almost never shows up in them (for me at least). An (anonymous) search for "shake hands with beef lyrics" turns up azlyrics.com, lyricsfreak.com as #1 and #2, followed by Wikipedia (which doesn't have lyrics) and then metrolyrics.com - probably the best of a bad bunch. Tack "genius" onto the search and it'll show up, but right now it's hardly competing for first-page search results.
  - arfliw 12y ago
    Genius ranks very highly for many, many searches. Even without adding 'lyrics' to the search.
shostack 12y ago
Out of curiosity what would you propose as an ideal solution? Of course with the understanding that it is unlikely to exist unless there is a way to monetize it.
GauntletWizard 12y ago
This is, once again, the copyright industry shooting itself in the foot; They actively go after lyrics sites, thus assuring that any that do exist are of maximal shittyness. The fundamental problem is a technicality of the songwriting process; To assure that lyricists and composers both got fair shares, songs consist of two separate entities for copyright purposes; Their lyrics, and their music. Therefore, when companies protect copyright, they need to protect copyright for the individual parts. Ergo, they go after lyrics sites, since they're committing wholesale infringement. Rather than the record labels setting up their own distribution sites, so that they could control and monetize, they viewed these as valuable property - since, after all, they're half the value of the song! The same problem exists with Guitar tabs, though as they're more specialized the community has mostly rallied to make those sites palatable.
diydsp 12y ago
> some that weren't utter shit I just searched for "Ashtray Monument Lyrics" on DuckDuckGo and it came up with http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/j/jawbreaker/ashtray_monument.html http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/j/jawbreaker/ashtray_monume... I'm running AdBlock and the lyricsmode.com page came up completely acceptably. p.s. If you like the song, here's a live version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaEvlHNPpQQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaEvlHNPpQQ

by ori_b 12y ago

andrewchambers 12y ago

Genius is pretty awesome.

Shog9 12y ago
Ironically, Genius tried to game search results and now almost never shows up in them (for me at least). An (anonymous) search for "shake hands with beef lyrics" turns up azlyrics.com, lyricsfreak.com as #1 and #2, followed by Wikipedia (which doesn't have lyrics) and then metrolyrics.com - probably the best of a bad bunch. Tack "genius" onto the search and it'll show up, but right now it's hardly competing for first-page search results.
- arfliw 12y ago
  Genius ranks very highly for many, many searches. Even without adding 'lyrics' to the search.

shostack 12y ago

Out of curiosity what would you propose as an ideal solution? Of course with the understanding that it is unlikely to exist unless there is a way to monetize it.

GauntletWizard 12y ago

This is, once again, the copyright industry shooting itself in the foot; They actively go after lyrics sites, thus assuring that any that do exist are of maximal shittyness. The fundamental problem is a technicality of the songwriting process; To assure that lyricists and composers both got fair shares, songs consist of two separate entities for copyright purposes; Their lyrics, and their music. Therefore, when companies protect copyright, they need to protect copyright for the individual parts. Ergo, they go after lyrics sites, since they're committing wholesale infringement. Rather than the record labels setting up their own distribution sites, so that they could control and monetize, they viewed these as valuable property - since, after all, they're half the value of the song! The same problem exists with Guitar tabs, though as they're more specialized the community has mostly rallied to make those sites palatable.

diydsp 12y ago

> some that weren't utter shit I just searched for "Ashtray Monument Lyrics" on DuckDuckGo and it came up with http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/j/jawbreaker/ashtray_monument.html http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/j/jawbreaker/ashtray_monume... I'm running AdBlock and the lyricsmode.com page came up completely acceptably. p.s. If you like the song, here's a live version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaEvlHNPpQQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaEvlHNPpQQ