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Obama is a disgrace. The reason he was elected over Hillary was because he initially took a harder line against the war, the spying and the torture. At the end

by guelo 12y ago

Obama is a disgrace. The reason he was elected over Hillary was because he initially took a harder line against the war, the spying and the torture. At the end of the Bush administration the American people voted overwhelmingly to break from the recent past, and Obama inexplicably betrayed our democracy. And I have my doubts that it will ever fully recover.

d23 12y ago
And yet when polled, citizens seem to mostly be in favor of the torture the CIA was involved in. > The reason he was elected over Hillary was because he initially took a harder line against the war, the spying and the torture. Have you considered that this is a vast oversimplification, and you're mostly just projecting your pet issues onto 70 million other people? I don't want to just regurgitate talking points, but saying he "inexplicably betrayed our democracy" is probably only inexplicable to you because you haven't wanted to take the time to think it through. An attempt to prosecute Bush would basically be political suicide, severely damaging his legacy and cementing complete government inaction for the remainder of his term. You can say that's a betrayal of our country, but calling it inexplicable is just silly. Also, as far as I know, I don't remember one of his stump speech promises being to taking the unprecedented step of pushing for the prosecution of a former President. You can project these ideas onto people if you wish, but no one will ever be able to live up to your standards, much less the President of the United States -- a person that has arguably the hardest, most complex job in the world.
Spooky23 12y ago
That's a simplistic view. The reality is, the president doesn't have a ton of power over the workings of the vast bureaucracy. And remember that the intelligence folks start the President's day, every day with their briefing. Makes manipulation of the executive easy. A newbie like Obama didn't stand a chance.

by guelo 12y ago

d23 12y ago

And yet when polled, citizens seem to mostly be in favor of the torture the CIA was involved in. > The reason he was elected over Hillary was because he initially took a harder line against the war, the spying and the torture. Have you considered that this is a vast oversimplification, and you're mostly just projecting your pet issues onto 70 million other people? I don't want to just regurgitate talking points, but saying he "inexplicably betrayed our democracy" is probably only inexplicable to you because you haven't wanted to take the time to think it through. An attempt to prosecute Bush would basically be political suicide, severely damaging his legacy and cementing complete government inaction for the remainder of his term. You can say that's a betrayal of our country, but calling it inexplicable is just silly. Also, as far as I know, I don't remember one of his stump speech promises being to taking the unprecedented step of pushing for the prosecution of a former President. You can project these ideas onto people if you wish, but no one will ever be able to live up to your standards, much less the President of the United States -- a person that has arguably the hardest, most complex job in the world.

Spooky23 12y ago

That's a simplistic view. The reality is, the president doesn't have a ton of power over the workings of the vast bureaucracy. And remember that the intelligence folks start the President's day, every day with their briefing. Makes manipulation of the executive easy. A newbie like Obama didn't stand a chance.