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Joost is one step away from a wide release. Anyone have thoughts on it?

4 points by Readmore 20y ago

Readmore 20y ago
I'm excited to take a look at Joost and see how it's going to work out. Has anyone tried it? Do you have any insights into if it's the 'next big thing' in online TV?
sri 20y ago
looks super cool. the ad is quite nice. and done by the founders of skype and kaaza (!) i predict that within 10 months it'll sell for $10 billion to microsoft. there, i said it!
floozyspeak 20y ago
invite me!
- dpapathanasiou 20y ago
  Ditto!
aston 20y ago
I've got a few invites. If you want one, astonm at gmail.com.
madmotive 20y ago
Good article here: Wii and Joost the perfect match: http://www.wiisquid.com/2007/04/04/wii-and-joost-the-perfect-match/ http://www.wiisquid.com/2007/04/04/wii-and-joost-the-perfect-match/ I also have invites jonathan.markwell at gmail if you want one.
jganetsk 20y ago
I don't think ISPs are very happy right now.
- JMiao 20y ago
  Word.
asdf333 20y ago
honestly it sucks. specifically, the programming (types of shows available) sucks. A big mistake they've made so far is to not open it up to whoever wants to broadcast. The resulting content is third-rate. They need to open it up to anyone who wants to stream content to make things interesting.
- JMiao 20y ago
  I couldn't agree more. Merely providing a new interaction and distribution framework isn't enough to revolutionize television. I'm not convinced on 100% user-submitted content, but Joost's current reliance on the big TV networks and production bigwigs for content is -- and has proven to be -- problematic. I still give Joost a lot of credit for their work, but their solution, like TiVo, YouTube, and, to a certain extent, Netflix is only an evolutionary step in the bigger picture. For now.
- jganetsk 20y ago
  That is a very interesting idea. User-driven broadcasts would have to compete in the "P2P marketplace". Consider this scenario. Joost is P2P. If I start my own Joost broadcast, I notify my peers of its existence. Those people who tune to my channel then transmit a notification to their peers, with the possibility of their rebroadcasting it. There would have to be some smoothing out of the protocol, but it could work. It would basically be P2P realtime YouTube.
  - JMiao 20y ago
    But now you have to ask yourself a few more questions: - Channel Life: having a buttload of Joost channels that aren't well-maintained with new content is as annoying as amassing RSS feeds that are updated sporadically, sometimes month-to-month (which is why I don't like the idea of "channels," alas the folks at Joost do) - Attention Deficit: Joost ultimately aims to replace television. Could you realistically picture yourself watching YouTube clips separated into content creator channels for more than 30 minutes? - Community: One of Joost's best features is the interactive chat that brings content communities closer together. How does this happen with highly fragmented user content? These are just some of the things that immediately come to mind. I'm not saying that a Joost P2P TV system doesn't make sense, it just requires a lot of consideration.

4 points by Readmore 20y ago

I'm excited to take a look at Joost and see how it's going to work out. Has anyone tried it? Do you have any insights into if it's the 'next big thing' in online TV?

sri 20y ago

looks super cool. the ad is quite nice. and done by the founders of skype and kaaza (!) i predict that within 10 months it'll sell for $10 billion to microsoft. there, i said it!

floozyspeak 20y ago

invite me!

dpapathanasiou 20y ago
Ditto!

aston 20y ago

I've got a few invites. If you want one, astonm at gmail.com.

madmotive 20y ago

Good article here: Wii and Joost the perfect match: http://www.wiisquid.com/2007/04/04/wii-and-joost-the-perfect-match/ http://www.wiisquid.com/2007/04/04/wii-and-joost-the-perfect-match/ I also have invites jonathan.markwell at gmail if you want one.

jganetsk 20y ago

I don't think ISPs are very happy right now.

JMiao 20y ago
Word.

asdf333 20y ago

honestly it sucks. specifically, the programming (types of shows available) sucks. A big mistake they've made so far is to not open it up to whoever wants to broadcast. The resulting content is third-rate. They need to open it up to anyone who wants to stream content to make things interesting.

JMiao 20y ago
I couldn't agree more. Merely providing a new interaction and distribution framework isn't enough to revolutionize television. I'm not convinced on 100% user-submitted content, but Joost's current reliance on the big TV networks and production bigwigs for content is -- and has proven to be -- problematic. I still give Joost a lot of credit for their work, but their solution, like TiVo, YouTube, and, to a certain extent, Netflix is only an evolutionary step in the bigger picture. For now.
jganetsk 20y ago
That is a very interesting idea. User-driven broadcasts would have to compete in the "P2P marketplace". Consider this scenario. Joost is P2P. If I start my own Joost broadcast, I notify my peers of its existence. Those people who tune to my channel then transmit a notification to their peers, with the possibility of their rebroadcasting it. There would have to be some smoothing out of the protocol, but it could work. It would basically be P2P realtime YouTube.
- JMiao 20y ago
  But now you have to ask yourself a few more questions: - Channel Life: having a buttload of Joost channels that aren't well-maintained with new content is as annoying as amassing RSS feeds that are updated sporadically, sometimes month-to-month (which is why I don't like the idea of "channels," alas the folks at Joost do) - Attention Deficit: Joost ultimately aims to replace television. Could you realistically picture yourself watching YouTube clips separated into content creator channels for more than 30 minutes? - Community: One of Joost's best features is the interactive chat that brings content communities closer together. How does this happen with highly fragmented user content? These are just some of the things that immediately come to mind. I'm not saying that a Joost P2P TV system doesn't make sense, it just requires a lot of consideration.