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> But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can choose to boot with or without "fsck.mode=skip". .. > Remedial action is not needed bec

by foxhill 12y ago

> But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can choose to boot with or without "fsck.mode=skip". .. > Remedial action is not needed because the right choice was made from the grub menu. If it wasn't, you get to live with the consequences and don't do it again. this discussion made me angry, and i wasn't even involved. someone has a reasonable request, and it's immediately brushed off in one of the most passive aggressive statements of the 21st century thus far. he advocates choice, and yet propagates dogma. idiot.

mox1 12y ago
I wonder if Mr/Mrs ad44@cityscape.co.uk talks to his friends and family like that, what an asshole. From an outsiders point of view, linux projects are filled with people like this. Linus, Ulrich Depper, etc. Really turns me off from ever contributing when these dudes (or girls I dunno) act like this.
- Jakuv2000 12y ago
  Don't forget Lennart. Just watch this video of him disrupting a talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTdUmlGxVo0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTdUmlGxVo0 The shenanigans start around 12 minutes in, and continue throughout. The last few minutes are particularly weird. He even gets up on stage at around 53:40. It's unbelievable!
  - the_why_of_y 12y ago
    Yes it is quite unbelievable how much bullshit and mis-information the presenter is talking, luckily somebody who actually knows the stuff was in the audience to point out some of the actual requirements of modern desktops.
    - digi_owl 12y ago
      That "modern desktop" is why many stopped using Windows in the first place.
    - retrogradeorbit 12y ago
      Whose requirements? Gnomes.
  - digi_owl 12y ago
    Yeah, i don't get the netizens sometimes. Torvalds venting on the LKML is bad, But this heckling is acceptable?
- pXMzR2A 12y ago
  > these dudes (or girls I dunno) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Initiative
- ash 12y ago
  I think there's an important difference between Linus and some debian-users posters. Linus directs most of his rants towards developers who don't care about users. "Don't break user space" rule is all about users. Compare with some debian-users participants.
  - raverbashing 12y ago
    Exactly this In the Linux world, it seems to me that Linus has the users at heart, which unfortunately cannot be said of several others

by foxhill 12y ago

mox1 12y ago

I wonder if Mr/Mrs ad44@cityscape.co.uk talks to his friends and family like that, what an asshole. From an outsiders point of view, linux projects are filled with people like this. Linus, Ulrich Depper, etc. Really turns me off from ever contributing when these dudes (or girls I dunno) act like this.

Jakuv2000 12y ago
Don't forget Lennart. Just watch this video of him disrupting a talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTdUmlGxVo0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTdUmlGxVo0 The shenanigans start around 12 minutes in, and continue throughout. The last few minutes are particularly weird. He even gets up on stage at around 53:40. It's unbelievable!
- the_why_of_y 12y ago
  Yes it is quite unbelievable how much bullshit and mis-information the presenter is talking, luckily somebody who actually knows the stuff was in the audience to point out some of the actual requirements of modern desktops.
  - digi_owl 12y ago
    That "modern desktop" is why many stopped using Windows in the first place.
  - retrogradeorbit 12y ago
    Whose requirements? Gnomes.
- digi_owl 12y ago
  Yeah, i don't get the netizens sometimes. Torvalds venting on the LKML is bad, But this heckling is acceptable?
pXMzR2A 12y ago
> these dudes (or girls I dunno) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Initiative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_Initiative
ash 12y ago
I think there's an important difference between Linus and some debian-users posters. Linus directs most of his rants towards developers who don't care about users. "Don't break user space" rule is all about users. Compare with some debian-users participants.
- raverbashing 12y ago
  Exactly this In the Linux world, it seems to me that Linus has the users at heart, which unfortunately cannot be said of several others