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there are ~1200 directly connecting users [0] and ~200 bridge users [1] who might dispute the assertion that 'Tor is completely blocked in China'. instead of c

there are ~1200 directly connecting users [0] and ~200 bridge users [1] who might dispute the assertion that 'Tor is completely blocked in China'. instead of casting aspersions on a free software project, i would encourage you to please help make tor more useful for these users, or to build your own alternative. [0] https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html?graph=userstats-relay-country&start=2014-09-21&end=2014-12-20&country=cn&events=off https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-relay-country.html?... [1] https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-bridge-country.html?graph=userstats-bridge-country&start=2014-09-21&end=2014-12-20&country=cn https://metrics.torproject.org/userstats-bridge-country.html...

olalonde 12y ago
There is a small subset of IPs in the Shanghai Free-trade Zone which are not subject to the same Internet restrictions as the rest of China. This along with government IPs and inaccurate IP-to-country mappings could account for those stats. For comparison, there are more than 300000 users in the US for a country that is considerably smaller in terms of population. For what it's worth, I have unsuccessfully tried using Tor (and Tor bridges) a few times in Shenzhen and I'm a lot more tech savvy than your average political dissident. Tor's blog even has a post about how it is being blocked in China if you don't believe me: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/closer-look-great-firewall-china https://blog.torproject.org/blog/closer-look-great-firewall-... > instead of casting aspersions on a free software project, i would encourage you to please help make tor more useful for these users, or to build your own alternative I doubt I could build a better alternative and I was not criticising the Tor project as a whole.
- blunder 12y ago
  Try using obfuscated bridges [1] next time you're in China. [1] - https://bridges.torproject.org/options https://bridges.torproject.org/options

olalonde 12y ago

There is a small subset of IPs in the Shanghai Free-trade Zone which are not subject to the same Internet restrictions as the rest of China. This along with government IPs and inaccurate IP-to-country mappings could account for those stats. For comparison, there are more than 300000 users in the US for a country that is considerably smaller in terms of population. For what it's worth, I have unsuccessfully tried using Tor (and Tor bridges) a few times in Shenzhen and I'm a lot more tech savvy than your average political dissident. Tor's blog even has a post about how it is being blocked in China if you don't believe me: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/closer-look-great-firewall-china https://blog.torproject.org/blog/closer-look-great-firewall-... > instead of casting aspersions on a free software project, i would encourage you to please help make tor more useful for these users, or to build your own alternative I doubt I could build a better alternative and I was not criticising the Tor project as a whole.

blunder 12y ago
Try using obfuscated bridges [1] next time you're in China. [1] - https://bridges.torproject.org/options https://bridges.torproject.org/options