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> You would never know the difference between say, a sausage patty, a veggie sausage patty, and an insect sausage patty. It’s all the same! It’s just the spices

> You would never know the difference between say, a sausage patty, a veggie sausage patty, and an insect sausage patty. It’s all the same! It’s just the spices. We should really stop with this BS. There are a lot of delicious ways to cook vegetables; but a veggie patty does NOT taste like a sausage one. I'd bet the second part of the sentence applies to insect as well. I'm not sure I'm ready to find out about the first part.

hcarvalhoalves 12y ago
Some insects are delicious. Tarantulas taste like shrimp or lobster, without all the shell [1]. Ants taste great with flour [2]. You can't tell the difference after cooking and spicing. [1] http://www.thedailymeal.com/deep-fried-tarantula http://www.thedailymeal.com/deep-fried-tarantula [2] http://flavorsofbrazil.blogspot.com.br/2011/11/recipe-ica-farofa.html http://flavorsofbrazil.blogspot.com.br/2011/11/recipe-ica-fa...
- ceejayoz 12y ago
  Congratulations, you've contested the point by completely ignoring it.
  - blisterpeanuts 12y ago
    So what? He provides interesting material. Why the need to attack?
    - ceejayoz 12y ago
      The thread started with: > You would never know the difference between say, a sausage patty, a veggie sausage patty, and an insect sausage patty. The argument is not "insects can't be tasty", the argument is "insects may indeed be tasty but people can taste that it's not beef/chicken". Given that people can tell the difference between, say, grass fed and grain fed beef, the claim that an insect or vegetable-based alternative will be indistinguishable needs more evidence than "nuh uh!"
      - hcarvalhoalves 12y ago
        I'm pointing some insects can be indistinguishable from other kind of meat, if not sausages. Tarantulas taste like shrimp or lobster, ants with flour taste like pork because it's fried in fat. And I've eaten those if that's enough evidence, it's available in my country. Seriously, that response of yours was uncalled for. This is not a pissing contest.
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- lisper 12y ago
  The Typhoon restaurant (http://typhoon.biz/ http://typhoon.biz/) serves insects. They have a whole insect section on their menu. I tried the Taiwanese crickets once. They were quite tasty: crunchy and nutty. I highly recommend giving it a whirl if you're in Santa Monica.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
  Tarantulas aren't insects.
  - hcarvalhoalves 12y ago
    Right, my mistake. In my native language "insect" is common name for any bug. "Some arthropods are delicious" then.
    - hga 12y ago
      But that's too wide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacostraca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacostraca (shrimp, crabs, lobster!) "Insect" is acceptable for those willing to be a little loose for the sake of this sort of discussion. "Bug" is better.
pawn 12y ago
I'm amazed at how often I hear "you can't taste the difference" with something that obviously tastes different. Its like a color blind person saying "you can't tell the difference between red and green" instead of "I can't tell the difference". I can taste the difference between and specify about a dozen types of animals. How in the world does anyone think I won't be able to tell a veggie patty or insect patty from any of them?
- sanderjd 12y ago
  I always think this about the soda taste tests, where people say they prefer Coca-Cola, but then prefer Pepsi in the blind taste tests, as if they couldn't taste the difference. They don't taste the same at all...
  - zaphar 12y ago
    I've done the Coca-Cola vs Pepsi blind taste test. I could tell the difference. I've also seen other people fail the test when they swore they could tell the difference. The fact is some people can tell the difference and some people can't. Part of it is training if you devote some time to learning the differences in taste then you will gain some skill. I drink both of those colas roughly about the same amount so I've become acquainted with the taste differences. Part of it is genetics some people just have more sensitive palates than other. I do in general have a more sensitive nose than many of the others I know so that may be part of it as well. I would wager though that the majority of the population have neither trained nor have the sensitivity to tell the difference between a lot of things.
    - sanderjd 12y ago
      I meant my comment more as "as someone who can taste the difference between certain things, it's really hard to imagine what it is like for people who can't" than a general "I can't believe some people can't tell the difference between how some things taste!" I don't think people are lying or stupid or anything else, just that it's hard to imagine. The color-blindness analogy in another comment is apt I think - if you can see color differentiation, it's really hard to imagine not being able to.
pavel_lishin 12y ago
I agree; it would be much more accurate to say that they both taste equally good, not that they taste the same. Boca Burger patties taste absolutely nothing like meat, but I still like the taste.
Alex3917 12y ago
While mushrooms haven't been plants since the early 80s, if you were to use chicken-of-the-woods the right way then you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference. Especially if you mixed it with something like tempeh in the right proportions.
- IndianAstronaut 12y ago
  The quorn line of products made with mushrooms is very similar in taste to chicken. Best imitation meat I have tasted.
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mathattack 12y ago
I think it's all a matter of context. Right now? I can taste the difference between a garden burger and a beef cheeseburger. If there is a global food shortage, the difference matters less.
hawleyal 12y ago
That's what you pick out as objectionable in the story?

hcarvalhoalves 12y ago

Some insects are delicious. Tarantulas taste like shrimp or lobster, without all the shell [1]. Ants taste great with flour [2]. You can't tell the difference after cooking and spicing. [1] http://www.thedailymeal.com/deep-fried-tarantula http://www.thedailymeal.com/deep-fried-tarantula [2] http://flavorsofbrazil.blogspot.com.br/2011/11/recipe-ica-farofa.html http://flavorsofbrazil.blogspot.com.br/2011/11/recipe-ica-fa...

ceejayoz 12y ago
Congratulations, you've contested the point by completely ignoring it.
- blisterpeanuts 12y ago
  So what? He provides interesting material. Why the need to attack?
  - ceejayoz 12y ago
    The thread started with: > You would never know the difference between say, a sausage patty, a veggie sausage patty, and an insect sausage patty. The argument is not "insects can't be tasty", the argument is "insects may indeed be tasty but people can taste that it's not beef/chicken". Given that people can tell the difference between, say, grass fed and grain fed beef, the claim that an insect or vegetable-based alternative will be indistinguishable needs more evidence than "nuh uh!"
    - hcarvalhoalves 12y ago
      I'm pointing some insects can be indistinguishable from other kind of meat, if not sausages. Tarantulas taste like shrimp or lobster, ants with flour taste like pork because it's fried in fat. And I've eaten those if that's enough evidence, it's available in my country. Seriously, that response of yours was uncalled for. This is not a pissing contest.
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lisper 12y ago
The Typhoon restaurant (http://typhoon.biz/ http://typhoon.biz/) serves insects. They have a whole insect section on their menu. I tried the Taiwanese crickets once. They were quite tasty: crunchy and nutty. I highly recommend giving it a whirl if you're in Santa Monica.
GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
Tarantulas aren't insects.
- hcarvalhoalves 12y ago
  Right, my mistake. In my native language "insect" is common name for any bug. "Some arthropods are delicious" then.
  - hga 12y ago
    But that's too wide: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacostraca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacostraca (shrimp, crabs, lobster!) "Insect" is acceptable for those willing to be a little loose for the sake of this sort of discussion. "Bug" is better.

pawn 12y ago

I'm amazed at how often I hear "you can't taste the difference" with something that obviously tastes different. Its like a color blind person saying "you can't tell the difference between red and green" instead of "I can't tell the difference". I can taste the difference between and specify about a dozen types of animals. How in the world does anyone think I won't be able to tell a veggie patty or insect patty from any of them?

sanderjd 12y ago
I always think this about the soda taste tests, where people say they prefer Coca-Cola, but then prefer Pepsi in the blind taste tests, as if they couldn't taste the difference. They don't taste the same at all...
- zaphar 12y ago
  I've done the Coca-Cola vs Pepsi blind taste test. I could tell the difference. I've also seen other people fail the test when they swore they could tell the difference. The fact is some people can tell the difference and some people can't. Part of it is training if you devote some time to learning the differences in taste then you will gain some skill. I drink both of those colas roughly about the same amount so I've become acquainted with the taste differences. Part of it is genetics some people just have more sensitive palates than other. I do in general have a more sensitive nose than many of the others I know so that may be part of it as well. I would wager though that the majority of the population have neither trained nor have the sensitivity to tell the difference between a lot of things.
  - sanderjd 12y ago
    I meant my comment more as "as someone who can taste the difference between certain things, it's really hard to imagine what it is like for people who can't" than a general "I can't believe some people can't tell the difference between how some things taste!" I don't think people are lying or stupid or anything else, just that it's hard to imagine. The color-blindness analogy in another comment is apt I think - if you can see color differentiation, it's really hard to imagine not being able to.

pavel_lishin 12y ago

I agree; it would be much more accurate to say that they both taste equally good, not that they taste the same. Boca Burger patties taste absolutely nothing like meat, but I still like the taste.

Alex3917 12y ago

While mushrooms haven't been plants since the early 80s, if you were to use chicken-of-the-woods the right way then you'd be hard pressed to notice the difference. Especially if you mixed it with something like tempeh in the right proportions.

IndianAstronaut 12y ago
The quorn line of products made with mushrooms is very similar in taste to chicken. Best imitation meat I have tasted.
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mathattack 12y ago

I think it's all a matter of context. Right now? I can taste the difference between a garden burger and a beef cheeseburger. If there is a global food shortage, the difference matters less.

hawleyal 12y ago

That's what you pick out as objectionable in the story?