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We don't like treaty-breakers. We don't like imperialistic ambitions. We don't like bullies that believe they have the right suppress weaker nations, simply b
by useerup 12y ago
We don't like treaty-breakers.
We don't like imperialistic ambitions.
We don't like bullies that believe they have the right suppress weaker nations, simply because they are stronger.
We don't like liars and deceivers.
We don't like people that willingly welcome nationalistic propaganda.
Right now Russia is all of the above.
For a while we believed that Russia would honor agreements and treaties, such as the one where Russia guaranteed the sovereignty of Ukraine in exchange for Ukrainian nuclear disarmament.
For a while we believed that Russia had given up the old dream of dominating its neighboring countries.
For a while we believed that Russia was growing more democratic and respectful of international law, norms and standards.
For a while we (naively) believed what Russian leaders told us.
For a while we believed that the Russian people had learned from the Soviet era and truly wanted a free society with meaningful democratic institutions. For a while we believed that the Russian people could see through nationalistic propaganda and resist being riled up by lies and misrepresentations (such as Ukrainians being "fascists").
We were let down. We are now massively disappointed. By Russia, by Russian leaders and - yes - by the Russian people who are demonstrating a staggering deliberate ignorance.
Personally I am so disappointing that I am willing to endure hardship and lower economic growth just to draw a line now and take a stand.
Turn this around. Throw out Putin. Allow free, critical press. Negotiate a deal with Ukraine on Crimea (I am sure one could be worked out as long as it is not at gunpoint). It will cost you, but it is obvious that a deal with gas in exchange for territory would be possible.
But above all, I need to see realization from the Russian public that they cannot act as bullies, that Russia does not have "more right" than others simply because they are stronger. That's the irony: The doctrine that a stronger state has the right to suppress weaker states is the core principle of fascism. I am sorry to say, but you, the Russian people who believe that "Crimea is ours", it is you who have become the fascists!
It do not dislike Russians. But I have become extremely suspicious as to the intentions of the Russian leaders and how far the Russian people will allow them to go.
- tomp 12y ago> We don't like treaty-breakers. > We don't like imperialistic ambitions. > We don't like bullies that believe they have the right suppress weaker nations, simply because they are stronger. > We don't like liars and deceivers. > We don't like people that willingly welcome nationalistic propaganda. This actually describes the USA really really well.
- Nitramp 12y agoI object to you both throwing all Russians into the same bucket and using 'we' as you're expressing your particular opinion, not necessarily shared by a wider group of westerners. As you can tell from Putin's elaborate use of propaganda, regular Russians would probably not agree with chauvinist and aggressive policies (otherwise the propaganda wouldn't be necessary). I don't believe many Russians perceive themselves as supporting a government that pursues an aggressive policy. It's easy to see how that propaganda can work - compare the US' post-9/11 invasion of Iraq, backed by a public opinion that was mostly manufactured. Don't get me wrong - Putin's actions are definitely wrong and unacceptable, and the West has to take proper action to deter him from further escalation. But we have to be cognizant of what will work, and what will only deepen the conflict. This is international politics - don't act on anger, disappointment, or other feelings, it'll most likely make things worse.