3 ms·

Why isn't Apple forced to the same deal with iOS? Not only do browsers not have the same prominence but they actually have to use WebView for rendering. Not to

Why isn't Apple forced to the same deal with iOS? Not only do browsers not have the same prominence but they actually have to use WebView for rendering. Not to mention the other apps Apple refuses to approve because of "duplication".

binarymax 12y ago
Probably because iOS doesn't have a monopoly on phones. Windows had to do this because they had 95% of the desktop market - so bundling IE forced the default browser for 95% of machines as well.
outside1234 12y ago
Apple has never had a dominant position in desktop (or any other platform). That is actually part of their genius, because if they did, they would never be allowed to do all of the tight integration scenarios that they do.
- icantthinkofone 12y ago
  I would never think that Apple intentionally limits themselves as you imply. As far as tight integration goes, there is nothing to stop any company from doing that. You misunderstand why Microsoft was hit so hard in the US and the EU.
deleted 12y ago
[deleted]
bad_user 12y ago
Because Microsoft was found to be a monopoly that abused its power over the marketplace to extend to other markets. Apple hasn't been in such a lawsuit, yet. I don't necessarily agree with such policies. For example the EU is thinking of breaking up Google because supposedly local players cannot compete, with inferior products in a market that Google created, but that's not mentioned. Of course, iOS does suck because of its restrictions and I sold my iPhone 6 that I received as a gift. So I just exercised my right to vote with my wallet, which imho is more effective.
- TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago
  Which market, exactly, did Google create? I can't think of anything Google did which was actually novel.
  - sbenario 12y ago
    And that attitude is why they have much more money than you.
Cowboy_X 12y ago
common misunderstanding of antitrust law. "Prominence", dominance or even monopoly is not actually illegal. There's nothing wrong with being absurdly successful, after all. The anti-trust laws are for when that power gets abused -- when one uses their monopoly power as leverage over another market. In the case of Microsoft, by bundling IE with Windows, they were using their OS monopoly to crush a competitor in the market for web browsers. None of this applies to Apple because they have nothing close to a mobile monopoly. If they did, the lawsuits would be over their position as gatekeepers of the entire market for mobile apps.

binarymax 12y ago

Probably because iOS doesn't have a monopoly on phones. Windows had to do this because they had 95% of the desktop market - so bundling IE forced the default browser for 95% of machines as well.

outside1234 12y ago

Apple has never had a dominant position in desktop (or any other platform). That is actually part of their genius, because if they did, they would never be allowed to do all of the tight integration scenarios that they do.

icantthinkofone 12y ago
I would never think that Apple intentionally limits themselves as you imply. As far as tight integration goes, there is nothing to stop any company from doing that. You misunderstand why Microsoft was hit so hard in the US and the EU.

deleted 12y ago

[deleted]

bad_user 12y ago

Because Microsoft was found to be a monopoly that abused its power over the marketplace to extend to other markets. Apple hasn't been in such a lawsuit, yet. I don't necessarily agree with such policies. For example the EU is thinking of breaking up Google because supposedly local players cannot compete, with inferior products in a market that Google created, but that's not mentioned. Of course, iOS does suck because of its restrictions and I sold my iPhone 6 that I received as a gift. So I just exercised my right to vote with my wallet, which imho is more effective.

TazeTSchnitzel 12y ago
Which market, exactly, did Google create? I can't think of anything Google did which was actually novel.
- sbenario 12y ago
  And that attitude is why they have much more money than you.

Cowboy_X 12y ago

common misunderstanding of antitrust law. "Prominence", dominance or even monopoly is not actually illegal. There's nothing wrong with being absurdly successful, after all. The anti-trust laws are for when that power gets abused -- when one uses their monopoly power as leverage over another market. In the case of Microsoft, by bundling IE with Windows, they were using their OS monopoly to crush a competitor in the market for web browsers. None of this applies to Apple because they have nothing close to a mobile monopoly. If they did, the lawsuits would be over their position as gatekeepers of the entire market for mobile apps.