> Just in case you are also trying to claim that your statement [...] applies to "gang rapes of a sober unwilling victim" as well I am assuredly not trying to

> Just in case you are also trying to claim that your statement [...] applies to "gang rapes of a sober unwilling victim" as well I am assuredly not trying to claim that. The context of bros at an american college fraternity party was a necessary part of what made the claim an unbelievable (but newsworthy!) story. (But hey, feel free to respond to more things I didn't say with irrelevant links, if inventing claims and attributing them to other people is what floats your boat!) My chief crystal clear bias here is in favor of believing that most people who do terrible things that might result in large prison sentences don't want to get caught and this at least somewhat influences their behavior.