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Well in the Bloomberg video (new link) the analyst says that projected "growth" for the Russian economy next year is -4% (so, not growth, but a contraction of 4

by Kadin 12y ago

Well in the Bloomberg video (new link) the analyst says that projected "growth" for the Russian economy next year is -4% (so, not growth, but a contraction of 4%). At 14% interest rates there's basically no way to afford capital investments. Unless you are buying a printing press to print more money.

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FractalNerve 12y ago
I feel powerless over the ignorant political movement of people who, from my PoV, act like drones controlled by the media firing their ammunition and causing collateral damage. Be it Pro-/Contro Ukraine/Russia/America or Israel. We were good to each other, helpful and understanding and just because of a few leading politicians who can't go and fight each other on their own (without an army of soldiers dying for them), all of our lives shall suffer? I'm surely too blinded by the delusions of world-peace to come to grasp how people really are, but I hope to be misunderstanding before I give up my faith and let them destroy what we have build together. I fear forums whom I enjoyed becoming places of distrust, hatred and battle space against the other political 'side'. Where admins and moderators use their given powers to torture the unwanted. I have only recently seen an Isreali woman marrying an Iranian man on television loving each other. And don't think that all people agree to what the politicians have to say. We are better. If all fails, I still believe that: “Chaos often breeds life, while order breeds habit.” – Henry Adams Regarding 'Chaos' - this seem like a good read: http://www.halexandria.org/dward165.htm http://www.halexandria.org/dward165.htm Leading countries co-operate to limit capital-flow to Russia and this albeit sounding implausible to me, has direct influence on the economic liquidity. Implausible because I don't know how it would be possible for countries and companies to co-operate on such a scale on a capital market, where most notably personal profit leads the market over political decisions. I would be much more curious on which companies initiated the financial war and how they orchestrated their strategies, than the actual outcome, from the PoV of a mathematically and technologically fascinated guy. http://i.imgur.com/dnAWMT2.png http://i.imgur.com/dnAWMT2.png Thank you for reading so far.
- byEngineer 12y ago
  Russia doesnt want cooperation. They wanted war, they got it. Crying for mama, now? Sorry, a bit too late
  - emocakes 12y ago
    that's idiotic. I remember seeing john mccain handing out cookies to 'protesters' at maidan. Most 'wars' in the 21st century are american backed.
- bsder 12y ago
  If Putin pulls back from Ukraine, they'll unroll the sanctions post haste. It's really not that hard. The problem is $60 per barrel oil. Putin can't undo that.
- threeseed 12y ago
  > possible for countries and companies to co-operate on such a scale on a capital market Simple. Heads of State get together and decide to what they want to happen. They have a whole range of levers to pull to manipulate markets. > where most notably personal profit leads the market over political decisions This is 100% wrong. I trade Forex daily and (a) political decisions drive the market and (b) we follow the market not drive it. Statements from say ECB, FOMC and reserve banks around the world etc all dictate what the currency markets will do.
  - FractalNerve 12y ago
    Thank you. Didn't know that the trade market worked that way.
- FractalNerve 12y ago
  Why did this get downvoted?
  - nitrogen 12y ago
    I'm not sure, but I tried to counter it with an upvote. Maybe it seemed like you were criticizing HN readers for discussing Russia (are you?).

by Kadin 12y ago

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FractalNerve 12y ago

I feel powerless over the ignorant political movement of people who, from my PoV, act like drones controlled by the media firing their ammunition and causing collateral damage. Be it Pro-/Contro Ukraine/Russia/America or Israel. We were good to each other, helpful and understanding and just because of a few leading politicians who can't go and fight each other on their own (without an army of soldiers dying for them), all of our lives shall suffer? I'm surely too blinded by the delusions of world-peace to come to grasp how people really are, but I hope to be misunderstanding before I give up my faith and let them destroy what we have build together. I fear forums whom I enjoyed becoming places of distrust, hatred and battle space against the other political 'side'. Where admins and moderators use their given powers to torture the unwanted. I have only recently seen an Isreali woman marrying an Iranian man on television loving each other. And don't think that all people agree to what the politicians have to say. We are better. If all fails, I still believe that: “Chaos often breeds life, while order breeds habit.” – Henry Adams Regarding 'Chaos' - this seem like a good read: http://www.halexandria.org/dward165.htm http://www.halexandria.org/dward165.htm Leading countries co-operate to limit capital-flow to Russia and this albeit sounding implausible to me, has direct influence on the economic liquidity. Implausible because I don't know how it would be possible for countries and companies to co-operate on such a scale on a capital market, where most notably personal profit leads the market over political decisions. I would be much more curious on which companies initiated the financial war and how they orchestrated their strategies, than the actual outcome, from the PoV of a mathematically and technologically fascinated guy. http://i.imgur.com/dnAWMT2.png http://i.imgur.com/dnAWMT2.png Thank you for reading so far.

byEngineer 12y ago
Russia doesnt want cooperation. They wanted war, they got it. Crying for mama, now? Sorry, a bit too late
- emocakes 12y ago
  that's idiotic. I remember seeing john mccain handing out cookies to 'protesters' at maidan. Most 'wars' in the 21st century are american backed.
bsder 12y ago
If Putin pulls back from Ukraine, they'll unroll the sanctions post haste. It's really not that hard. The problem is $60 per barrel oil. Putin can't undo that.
threeseed 12y ago
> possible for countries and companies to co-operate on such a scale on a capital market Simple. Heads of State get together and decide to what they want to happen. They have a whole range of levers to pull to manipulate markets. > where most notably personal profit leads the market over political decisions This is 100% wrong. I trade Forex daily and (a) political decisions drive the market and (b) we follow the market not drive it. Statements from say ECB, FOMC and reserve banks around the world etc all dictate what the currency markets will do.
- FractalNerve 12y ago
  Thank you. Didn't know that the trade market worked that way.
FractalNerve 12y ago
Why did this get downvoted?
- nitrogen 12y ago
  I'm not sure, but I tried to counter it with an upvote. Maybe it seemed like you were criticizing HN readers for discussing Russia (are you?).