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The city administration itself is to blame. The city of Detroit indirectly attempted and failed to create a psuedo-socialist state within itself (I'm a Detroit
by valarauca1 12y ago
The city administration itself is to blame.
The city of Detroit indirectly attempted and failed to create a psuedo-socialist state within itself (I'm a Detroiter).
The City in and of itself is the largest employer within its own boundaries, because when the city wanted to create new jobs. Its very easy to expand services, hire new people. Bam new jobs created, and then you can hire directly from city people, city people stay in the city. Tax dollars come back to your pocket :D
The problem is then those people who get jobs, move into the suburbs, and the city loses money because what it hoped to regain in taxes back to itself, never came.
What this leads to is a TON of people on city pensions, and city health care who don't live in the city, and haven't for years. Collecting city money, that's simply being exported to near by suburbs.
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- jbooth 12y agoI guarantee you that whatever mistakes the city government in Detroit made, above and on top of socio-economic things that are hard for them to control, nobody ever said "I know, we'll create a socialist mini-state in detroit and that will fix things". That definitely didn't happen.
- valarauca1 12y ago> indirectly adverb 1. In a way that is not directly caused by something; incidentally. 2. Without having had direct experience They didn't mean to do it, but ultimately that is what happened.
- jbooth 12y agoLet's say the government employed 1 person, total, and every single private employer moved out, creating a situation of 100% government employment. Would you still phrase it as "the government created a socialist state"? Whipping out the word 'socialism', in the American political discourse, typically turns it into a silly red vs blue conversation.
- talmand 12y agoI think your responses say more about you then it does valarauca1. I would have to say your trying to make too much of a simple statement.
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- jbooth 12y agoI'm just saying it's silly to call the government socialist based on the gov't % of jobs growing in an otherwise shrinking economy. The government could be cutting jobs (not that Detroit's is) and still growing as a % of a shrinking-faster economy. Sorry if I stereotyped you.
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- talmand 12y agoI've never understood this type of employment logic from a city's perspective. The city employs a large number of people within it's boundaries, supposedly in an effort to keep tax revenue inside the city. But these people's paychecks come from tax revenues in the first place. So unless they have new monies coming in somehow, it's a circular logic problem that degrades over time until it collapses.
- CapitalistCartr 12y agoHopefully, and usually, long after the politicians who won by doing this are retired.
- valarauca1 12y agoYou hit the nail on the head. Sort term (5/10 years) solutions get you reelected. Long term 25-50 years, get you kicked out after 1 term for a lack of progress.