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If you think provisional patents are stifling innovation, you should see what happens when you tell these researchers that they no longer have the possibility o
by swamp40 12y ago
If you think provisional patents are stifling innovation, you should see what happens when you tell these researchers that they no longer have the possibility of getting incredibly filthy rich someday from their discoveries - because all patents have been eliminated and a new era of "share and share alike for the common good" is upon us.
- warfangle 12y agoDo the researchers themselves even own the patents -- or will the company/university they work for own the patents? You should see what happens when they realize they aren't ever going to become filthy rich someday from their discoveries... just like everybody else.
- krschultz 12y agoThey do actually own some % of it. They also do actually get filthy rich if the patent is worthwhile. The college I went to actually had two guys that invented most of the multi-touch technology that went into the original iPhone. Apple bought the patents out and the professor and doctoral student that had done the research made a good deal of money.
- baddox 12y agoI imagine lawyers being more upset about that than researchers.
- hyperbovine 12y agoNobody I know in research is in it for the money. There are much, much more direct ways for technically gifted people to get rich--look up "quantitative finance".
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- locopati 12y agoHell, yeah! Good thing Jonas Salk buttoned-up his polio discoveries so he could make mad cash. Oh, wait, he didn't. "There is no patent. Could you patent the sun?" - Salk
- gwern 12y agoYou mean, 'the possibility of getting incredibly filthy rich, and the likelihood of making someone else with a more basic patent incredibly rich'? A patent thicket is the paradigmatic tragedy of the anti-commons...
- Osmium 12y ago> you should see what happens when you tell these researchers that they no longer have the possibility of getting incredibly filthy rich someday from their discoveries My personal experience with this is that patents are only used as a kind of status symbol, in that they help researchers acquire new grants/funding ("look, it's marketable!") and make themselves look good to their institution. I'm yet to meet a researcher who's actually made any money off one, and most are by no means adequately compensated for their work. That all said, I have met former researchers who've made successful start-ups from their academic work, and made money that way, and I'm sure patents were an essential part of that, but by that point they've left academia anyway. For them, I never had the impression that the prospect of making money was the motivating factor for getting into research. It was all just serendipity. Though I'm sure there are exceptions.
- rodgerd 12y agoYes, I've noticed no-one works on compilers unless they can use IP protection to get filthy rich. Or web servers. Or operating systems.
- placebo 12y agoThis assumes most of innovation is driven by hope of getting incredibly filthy rich, an assumption which I can provide plenty of counter-examples for. Eliminating all patents is of course counter productive as their advantage is obvious, but the current patent situation is far from being optimal (understatement of the day) so I'm certain a whole range of improvements are possible which will encourage innovation and do not necessitate switching over to communism...
- mc808 12y ago> a new era of "share and share alike for the common good" is upon us. Bringing discoveries and inventions into the public domain for the good of society is the primary reason for having a patent system. To the extent that it inhibits this outcome, the system is failing.
- noonespecial 12y agoBecause it worked so well for Tesla. (Nikola that is)
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y agoThe Bayh-Dole act wasn't some singularity of research innovation.