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> a population who polls to the left of Cuba in terms of political opinions. This no doubt accounts for the success of the extreme right wing. > France is lef

> a population who polls to the left of Cuba in terms of political opinions. This no doubt accounts for the success of the extreme right wing. > France is left with a few generations that have been force fed progressive propaganda from an early age. Ah, yes. Like this fantastic law about the positive effects of colonialism? Clearly, conservatives would totally above any kind of revisionism... Anyway, good luck in your country of adoption. Hope you don't get seriously sick.

murbard2 12y ago
The French extreme right wing takes its root in Poujadism. The closest equivalent would be something like Peronism. It's basically a mix of protectionist ideas mixed with a lot of welfare programs. It tend to be reactionary on many social issues, but it is anchored firmly on the left. Most supporters of the FN today are blue collar, and it's not surprise that one of their 'thinkers', Alain Soral came from the far left - they're pretty similar. As far as the attitude of French people on economic issues, just look at the polls instead of making ad hominem an quips http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/20110125trib000595445/les-francais-champions-du-monde-de-l-anti-capitalisme.html http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/20110125trib0005... http://www.croissance-responsable.fr/commissions/sondage-les-francais-et-leconomie-de-marche/ http://www.croissance-responsable.fr/commissions/sondage-les... http://www.ifop.fr/?option=com_publication&type=poll&id=2637 http://www.ifop.fr/?option=com_publication&type=poll&id=2637
- mercurial 12y ago
  The FN has historically been a mix of economic liberalism and nationalism. They may surf on a more socialist way because it's fashionable nowadays, but that's all. I looked briefly at the polls you linked to. People think that the current economic system profits unfairly to a small minority? Is that being far left now? A third thinking capitalism is not the way forward becomes "the population polls left of Cuba"?
  - murbard2 12y ago
    The FN has a brief foray in economic liberalism in the 80's which was primarily an opportunistic way to capitalize on the shock of having the socialists in power. It didn't last and the success you allude too came after they turned towards an anti-capitalist and anti-free market rhetoric. There's a specific poll that I'm trying to dig which was about attitudes towards free markets and capitalism where French citizens polled among the least favorable country in the world, below Cubans. I didn't just make it up as a quip.
    - mercurial 12y ago
      In the 80s? LePen sr was all for lower taxes, the end of subventions, much less government intervention, drastic cuts in public spending well into the 2000s. It's only with the arrival of his daughter at the head of the party and her attempts at making it look more respectable that things changed.
      - murbard2 12y ago
        You mean in 2002 when he was advocating a welfare payment equivalent to the minimum wage to all parents and heavy tariffs?

murbard2 12y ago

The French extreme right wing takes its root in Poujadism. The closest equivalent would be something like Peronism. It's basically a mix of protectionist ideas mixed with a lot of welfare programs. It tend to be reactionary on many social issues, but it is anchored firmly on the left. Most supporters of the FN today are blue collar, and it's not surprise that one of their 'thinkers', Alain Soral came from the far left - they're pretty similar. As far as the attitude of French people on economic issues, just look at the polls instead of making ad hominem an quips http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/20110125trib000595445/les-francais-champions-du-monde-de-l-anti-capitalisme.html http://www.latribune.fr/actualites/economie/20110125trib0005... http://www.croissance-responsable.fr/commissions/sondage-les-francais-et-leconomie-de-marche/ http://www.croissance-responsable.fr/commissions/sondage-les... http://www.ifop.fr/?option=com_publication&type=poll&id=2637 http://www.ifop.fr/?option=com_publication&type=poll&id=2637

mercurial 12y ago
The FN has historically been a mix of economic liberalism and nationalism. They may surf on a more socialist way because it's fashionable nowadays, but that's all. I looked briefly at the polls you linked to. People think that the current economic system profits unfairly to a small minority? Is that being far left now? A third thinking capitalism is not the way forward becomes "the population polls left of Cuba"?
- murbard2 12y ago
  The FN has a brief foray in economic liberalism in the 80's which was primarily an opportunistic way to capitalize on the shock of having the socialists in power. It didn't last and the success you allude too came after they turned towards an anti-capitalist and anti-free market rhetoric. There's a specific poll that I'm trying to dig which was about attitudes towards free markets and capitalism where French citizens polled among the least favorable country in the world, below Cubans. I didn't just make it up as a quip.
  - mercurial 12y ago
    In the 80s? LePen sr was all for lower taxes, the end of subventions, much less government intervention, drastic cuts in public spending well into the 2000s. It's only with the arrival of his daughter at the head of the party and her attempts at making it look more respectable that things changed.
    - murbard2 12y ago
      You mean in 2002 when he was advocating a welfare payment equivalent to the minimum wage to all parents and heavy tariffs?